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  • #397717
    Ron Laden
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      @ronladen17547

      Any recommendations for a half decent bench grinder at a reasonable price.

      The £30 ebay cheapie I have is rubbish and probably dangerous. Its out of balance and I,m sure its not the wheels, the rests are made of Baco foil. The real worry though is it gets hot after 10 minutes of running even when doing no work.

      I mainly use it for tool grinding and once it gets hot it starts to slow down even with quite light work. Its labelled as 150 watts which I doubt so would prefer at least 250 watts.

      I now dont like using it, fearing its either going to have a major failure or burst into flames.

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      #19250
      Ron Laden
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        @ronladen17547
        #397720
        Dalboy
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          @dalboy

          I use a record power 6" grinder mainly for sharpening my turning tools and have found it very good. They also do a 8" version.

          This ONE

          #397721
          Paul Lousick
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            @paullousick59116

            All wheels should be dressed to eliminate out of balance vibrations.

            150 watt is a bit small. I have a 375 watt Ryobi combination grinder with 150mm wheel and belt. Enough power for the wheel for sharpening tools but not enough for the belt. Would like to upgrade to something bigger. At least 500w for wheel and 1kW or bigger for belt grinder.

            I recently viewed a serious DIY belt grinder on Youtube made from left over materials in the workshop. An a well equiped workshop.

            Paul.

            **LINK**

            #397722
            John Haine
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              @johnhaine32865

              I have 2 ELU grinders, can recommend them.

              #397724
              John Rudd
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                @johnrudd16576

                Wickes sell an own brand which I have turned into a t n c grinder with HH's rest….grinder was £40 iirc..

                #397725
                Peter G. Shaw
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                  @peterg-shaw75338

                  Ron,

                  My grinder is a Clarke 5" 150W model. The first one that I bought got very hot fairly quickly so I returned it under warranty. The replacement also became very hot. That was 30 years ago, and it still gets hot. As a result, if doing a lot of grinding, I keep touching the casing and when it gets almost too hot to hold is when I switch off and allow it to cool down.

                  The reason why it gets hot is because these models do not have a fan in them to blow air through the motor.

                  I do agree though that 150W is on the low side, but with care, I find it adequate. One advantage is that it is difficult to overgrind since the motor simply stalls.

                  Regards,

                  Peter G. Shaw

                  #397726
                  Vic
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                    @vic

                    For what it’s worth I rarely use my bench grinder any more, I sharpen virtually all my tools on a belt sander.

                    #397730
                    Russell Eberhardt
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                      @russelleberhardt48058

                      Old motors ran cool because the insulation available for the winding wire wouldn't stand high temperatures. Modern winding wire can stand higher temperatures so motors are designed taking advantage of that fact. Thus they are smaller and cheaper for a given power.

                      My old 1/4 hp grinder has a big, heavy motor and never gets more than slightly warm. The small cheapo grinder that I use with cup wheels and HH rest does get hot but has lasted for over 12 years so far.

                      Russell

                      #397764
                      not done it yet
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                        @notdoneityet

                        Guessing here that any machine with less than a 100% duty cycle should be marked as such, these days?

                        #397769
                        Bazyle
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                          @bazyle

                          recent thread on grinders.

                          The one that thread started with is still available at £40. We are getting one for the men's shed as nobody has given us one yet.

                          All grinders come with thin tin rests so no point in complaining about it. Again several threads have covered the simple block of wood rest so no need to make an over elaborate precision sharpening system to start with.

                          #397771
                          Nick Wheeler
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                            @nickwheeler
                            Posted by Bazyle on 24/02/2019 13:43:30:

                            recent thread on grinders.

                            The one that thread started with is still available at £40. We are getting one for the men's shed as nobody has given us one yet.

                            I've had one of those for a couple of years, and although I don't use it heavily it is a decent tool: runs smoothly and quietly, effortly removes material, and takes ages to run down. What more do can you ask for just £40?

                            #397783
                            Ron Laden
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                              @ronladen17547

                              Thanks for the suggestions guys, having spent quite some time looking at no end of grinders I have gone with the Axminster Tools Craft one pictured below.

                              £65 including delivery which suited my pocket, 150mm, 250 watt, if the picture is anything to go by it looks well made, so hopefully it will be and give good long service.

                              Thanks again.

                              Ron

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                              #397795
                              ega
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                                @ega
                                Posted by Ron Laden on 24/02/2019 15:47:56:

                                … it looks well made, so hopefully it will be and give good long service. …

                                Amen to that but for many purposes you will want to replace the standard bent metal rests.

                                #397826
                                Hollowpoint
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                                  @hollowpoint

                                  Clarke do a heavy duty range of grinders which are good. I have a 6" 250w which I have abused for years, its still going strong. Doesn't get too hot either.

                                   

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                                  Edited By Hollowpoint on 24/02/2019 20:33:17

                                  #397829
                                  Mick B1
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                                    @mickb1

                                    I've got a cheapie 150W that I got from B&Q maybe 15 years ago, replacing a similar one I'd also had for about 15 years. It does the job for me, I use it several times in any week, and some of my tools have some detail to their shapes. I dress it regularly with a cheap diamond. When the wheels get too worn, I'll dump it and buy another.

                                    #397917
                                    Colin Heseltine
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                                      @colinheseltine48622

                                      I have Wolf 6" bench grinder bought around 45 years ago still going strong. Also have my Grandfathers grinder, cannot remember the name but it still runs silently and when switched off stays spinning for ages. Cant beat the old stuff.

                                      Colin

                                      #397931
                                      Mike Poole
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                                        @mikepoole82104

                                        Creusen won’t qualify for the reasonable price but I still fancy one, almost any grinder that is at the affordable end of the market is going to need better wheels, driving flanges and tool rests so they are not as cheap as they appear but can be the basis of a useful machine if the motor has decent power.

                                        Mike

                                        #397932
                                        Chris Trice
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                                          @christrice43267

                                          B&Q have the 150 watt cheapie one (available from practically everyone with their own label) for £20 under their European sounding Mac Allister brand.

                                          #397945
                                          Trevor Drabble 1
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                                            @trevordrabble1

                                            Mike , I have a Creusen 7200 , purchased MANY years ago from Axminster . I originally wanted the better model , but after a fruitful discussion with the lady at Axminster , I settled in this one , and I have to say , she was exactly right in her comments , bless her . Plus , she saved me a significant amount of cash . The machine is mounted on Creusen's own angle stand , has obviously well out-lasted it's long guarantee , and still uses its original and we'll-used vibration free wheels , as well as still taking around 2 mins to come to a stop . It still starts and runs like a dream and barely slows under load .

                                            Here , I must confess a bias . I generally believe you get what you pay for , and I have no regrets whatsoever with this purchase and consider it well worth every penny .

                                            So Mike , if you can afford one , go for it . The quality remains long after the price has been forgotten .

                                            #397951
                                            Bill Phinn
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                                              @billphinn90025

                                              Trevor, Axminster seem to have ceased selling Creusens some time ago. Does anyone know the reason for this?

                                              #397954
                                              Trevor Drabble 1
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                                                @trevordrabble1

                                                Bill , yes ,you're right they have but don't know why I'm afraid . Perhaps "buy one and you don't need to buy another " doesn't make good sales sense ? Believe Cromwell and Gate Tools still sell them .

                                                #397963
                                                thaiguzzi
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                                                  @thaiguzzi

                                                  +1 for Creusen.

                                                  Mine came from the factory as converted to polishing spindle on the R/H side, and 2" belt linisher on the left.

                                                  Superb bit of kit, purchased new in 2003 – and used a lot!

                                                  My bench grinder is an ex school, 8" Wolfe, c/w key to lock the electrics! Must of owned it nearly 30 years – again superb kit.

                                                  #397967
                                                  Tony Pratt 1
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                                                    @tonypratt1

                                                    I have the excellent Creusen, my son wanted one & they are still obtainable in the UK but so so expensive, he went for a heavy duty Warco one in the end.

                                                    Tony

                                                    #398015
                                                    Mark Rand
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                                                      @markrand96270
                                                      Posted by Ron Laden on 24/02/2019 15:47:56:

                                                      Thanks for the suggestions guys, having spent quite some time looking at no end of grinders I have gone with the Axminster Tools Craft one pictured below.

                                                      £65 including delivery which suited my pocket, 150mm, 250 watt, if the picture is anything to go by it looks well made, so hopefully it will be and give good long service.

                                                      Thanks again.

                                                      Ron

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                                                      These are the same grinders that Arc sell. Be aware that the plastic light shade assemblies on top of the guards are extremely flimsy. Mine are on the list of things to re-manufacture out of aluminium after they both broke in the first week.

                                                      I got the 8" one, mostly for sharpening TIG tungstens.

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