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  • #264108
    Glyn Davies
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      @glyndavies49417

      All my end mills are getting blunt so I scoured ebay for some new ones to find that the majority for sale are straight shank. I like the security that the screwed shank gives – they're not going to work themselves out of the chuck and deepen the cut. But are they now obsolete? Does everyone now use ER collets to hold end mills?

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      Glyn Davies
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        @glyndavies49417
        #264112
        Muzzer
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          @muzzer

          cncpoorboy seems to have quite a few…

          Yes, ER seems to be the approved method. But please only whisper that in here….

          #264116
          Thor 🇳🇴
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            @thor

            Hi Otley,

            Tracy Tools seems to stock screwed shank end mills. I have a few cutters from them and I have had no problems so far. Screwed shank cutters are very hard to find where I live, so yes, I use ER collets both to hold cutters and to hold work.

            Thor

            #264124
            Glyn Davies
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              @glyndavies49417

              Thanks for the replies. I went with Tracy Tools (£50 + VAT + post) for a metric and imperial set.

              I get the impression that discussing cutter holding issues here is a bit like asking the storeman for a long weight…

              #264125
              Brian Baker 2
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                @brianbaker2

                Greetings,

                Why not resharpen them?

                several excellent methods described over the years, plus when they are really sharp, they cut beautifully.

                Regards

                Brian

                #264165
                Ian S C
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                  @iansc

                  They are still quite available here in NZ, bought a couple of slot drills yesterday, there were three brands of standard length, I bought the cheapest Sonta from South Africa, and a long series one by Trubor UK, in both types the local Patience & Nicholson ones were quite a bit dearer.

                  Ian S C

                  Edited By Ian S C on 01/11/2016 11:28:09

                  #264169
                  mark smith 20
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                    @marksmith20

                    Im busy looking for screw shank mills to fit a Clarkson older` type c `chuck that came with my mill.

                    I have a question, does the screw size of the cutter = the shank size.

                    For instance i have 1/4",3/8", 1/2" and 5/8" collets which are unmarked. Would a 15/32 " screwed shank cutter fit in the 1/2" collet (i.e screw in?) or do you need a 15/32" collet?

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                    Edited By mark smith 20 on 01/11/2016 12:21:01

                    #264170
                    Mike Poole
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                      @mikepoole82104

                      I think those are the standard Clarkson collets, sizes that fall between those collets are on one of the standard shanks. Metric cutters are on metric shanks and will require metric collets that usually have a line machined around the driving flange. The metric collets are 6, 10, 12 and 16 for the small collet chuck.

                      Mike

                      #264173
                      mark smith 20
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                        @marksmith20

                        Hi Michael so a 15/32" shank cutter should fit in the 1/2" clarkson `c type collet?

                        The collets are the type with two prongs at the back. Ive never came across this type of clarkson before .

                        I have 3 original collets, the long ones in the photo,which came with the mill in 1/4",1/2" and 5/8" sizes , i assume these take either screwed or plain shank cutters but they have to be the correct exact size??p1300138.jpg

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                        Edited By mark smith 20 on 01/11/2016 12:47:07

                        #264174
                        Mike Poole
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                          @mikepoole82104

                          I would expect it to be mounted on a 1/2" shank so yes it would.

                          Mike

                          #264176
                          Nobby
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                            @nobby

                            Hi Otley & Guys
                            To use plain cutters in an Autolock Slice the end of a old cutter and make what we called a dummy centre
                            Please see photo> Screw into collect fit in holder a tighten up Try it
                            Nobby
                            Autolock

                            #264178
                            Mike Poole
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                              @mikepoole82104

                              Here is a selection on cutters on shanks different from the cutter size, as you see some are larger than the shank. Clarkson Autolock chucks of all types use the same basic collet sizes but the actual collet design did change with the different models.

                              Mike

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                              #264188
                              Mike Poole
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                                @mikepoole82104

                                The three long collets are nothing to do with the clarkson system but as you say they will take the screwed shank type of cutter as long as it is a fit for the collet. The screwed shank will be of no benefit but will not be a problem as long as the collet has a good length of plain shank to grip.

                                Mike

                                #264198
                                Muzzer
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                                  @muzzer

                                  IIRC, the imperial threads, although differing diameters, are all 20 TPI?

                                  #264206
                                  John Stevenson 1
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                                    @johnstevenson1

                                    Silly enough, same for metric.

                                    6mm x 20tpi
                                    10mm x 20tpi

                                    Etc
                                    Nice things about standards, there are so many of them.

                                    #264208
                                    Michael Gilligan
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                                      @michaelgilligan61133
                                      Posted by Muzzer on 01/11/2016 15:12:59:

                                      IIRC, the imperial threads, although differing diameters, are all 20 TPI?

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                                      I believe so … and that it was done to retain [approximately] the same locking force on all sizes of collet.

                                      MichaelG.

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                                      Edit: for convenient reference, here's the patent

                                      https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=915713A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19630116&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

                                      Edited By Michael Gilligan on 01/11/2016 16:22:30

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