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  • #110585
    Johan Crous
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      @johancrous15881

      I have seen countless examples where aluminium was used in stead of steel and it worked. Not so hard but working.

      I have now seen this web page : **LINK**

      The owner is using Brass (although more expensive, it is possibly more durable)
      Take for example a brass tap. The mechanism is rubbing against each other for very long years and it still last.

      Here he made tool holders for a QCTP: **LINK**

      Here parts of the T & C Grinder: **LINK**

      Parts of this grinding rest: **LINK**

      QCTP: **LINK**

      A lot here: **LINK**

      Boring Head: **LINK**

      Advanced grinding rest: **LINK**

      I just want to know what is your opinion on the use of brass. It will machine easily on my mini mill. I just don't know how durable / hard it is.

      Will I be able to cast in brass?

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      Johan Crous
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        @johancrous15881
        #110587
        David Littlewood
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          @davidlittlewood51847

          Johan,

          There are hundreds of varieties of brass, with a very wide range of properties. Some of them have a tensile strength higher than mild steel; some are better than others for casting. A quick Google search threw up this useful looking resource:

          **LINK**

          I'm sure a more careful search would throw up many other informative sources.

          Hope that may help.

          David

          #110597
          Michael Gilligan
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            @michaelgilligan61133

            Johan,

            Many of the "Ornamental Turning" lathes, such as Holtzapffel, made extensive use of Brass for slideways, etc.

            However; as David says, there are many grades of Brass; so there is no easy answer.

            As for DIY casting … please take care.

            If I understand correctly; very little Brass Casting is now done in this Country — simply because of the related Health problems. (I will see if I can find some detail, and post later)

            MichaelG.

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            This thread is worth reading.

            Edited By Michael Gilligan on 31/01/2013 21:11:49

            #110678
            Sub Mandrel
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              @submandrel

              I made a gib strip out of brass I had bought to make free-hobbed gears from. It was so hard the first gear came out one tooth short, and the second one tooth extra, I gave up and got some engraving brass hich was fine for gears.

              As I say the hard brass went into a gib strip – it was amazingly difficult stuff to work, but I was able to preserve the mirror finish on the bearing surface, which I then finished by flatting it with very fine abrasive paper. the result was silky smooth in use and has shownno visible wear.

              Neil

              #110717
              Ian S C
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                @iansc

                One of the main problems is the cost of brass over as a block of hot rolled steel.

                Brass is (well it was a yr or so ago) cast in Christchurch, although I had to change foundries, as the one I used to use now only does ferrous castings. Every yr or two I get a hundred or so Horse Brasses cast for the souvenir shop at our museum. I made 8 patterns. Ian S C

                #110730
                Versaboss
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                  @versaboss

                  If it looks like brass but is d@mn hard it could well be Aluminium Bronze. The colour is almost the same. I once gave up drilling a 3 mm hole in this stuff (yes I used a good drill…)

                  Greetings, Hansrudolf

                  #110766
                  Sub Mandrel
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                    @submandrel

                    Hi Hansrudolf,

                    Not so much hard, as nasty to work – it grabs toolbits and repels all but brand new files.

                    It was 1/4" thick CZ108 from CES, I re-ordered the leaded engariving brass CZ120 which was much easier to work.

                    Neil

                    #110794
                    Gordon W
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                      @gordonw

                      While clearing up in the w/shop I found a few old nozzles from oxy-acetaline and oxy-propane cutters. They look like bronze of some sort, does anyone know what? IE will they be any use for ,say, bearing bushes ? Or do I just weigh em in?

                      #110802
                      Les Jones 1
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                        @lesjones1

                        Hi Gordon,
                        All the cutting tips I have seen have been made from copper.

                        Les.

                        #110831
                        Gordon W
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                          @gordonw

                          Thanks Les, I've cleaned one up and you are right, of course, the burning does put a nice colour on tho'. They'll come in for something.

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