Linux – The perfect OS as long as you don’t need to actually DO anything

[Fulmen]

On Fulmen Said:

Silly me figured I would give Mint a chance, hoping it would install over Ubuntu without too much fuss.

Guess what? There is fuss….

Silly indeed when Fulmen was advised “For gawd’s sake don’t jump to another distro!”

🙂

Dave

[FulmenParticipant @fulmen]

Well, it was the one recommended by a linux-capable friend. But in reality it doesn’t matter, it’s just something they use to deflect complaints. Whatever distro you run it is always the wrong one.

I have actually gotten Mint installed so it boots properly, but unfortunately it hasn’t solved the main problem of still being linux. It is at it’s core still a command line OS with a GUI bolted on. And all software will assume you already know how to use it.

[FulmenParticipant @fulmen]

Just to address your feedback a bit:

– No SD card so jump to network.
Manually swapping cards has always been an annoyance, that’s why I switched to USB in the first place. And since USB worked so well I never bothered to stock up on  SD cards.

– Windows fails, so jump to Linux.
One computer failed, so I switched to my backup. It was running on linux so I figured I should try to get more experience with it.

– Cura fails so jump to Octoprint, Octoprint fails so jump to VNC.
I had a thing to print, so installing Cura seemed like the quickest fix. When that became a lot of work I figured I was better off putting that work into a better and more permanent setup. Octoprint has been on my wish list for a while.
When this also proved to be a major undertaking I switched my primary focus to VNC so I could work from my work station.

And to my defense this is exactly what I ended up doing once I had rebooted to Windows and updated the system. First I installed VNC, then I could work on Octoprint and the webcam solution. And except for it running on Win10 it’s everything I could have hoped for.

As for Linux my experience always reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvswW6M7bMo

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

Installing Cura on Linux Mint is a doddle (no need for command line) Just download the appimage file from Ultimaker’s site, Right click on the file, select Properties>Permissions and click to allow executing file as program. Afterwards just clicking on the file will execute it.

Russell

[FulmenParticipant @fulmen]

OK. I ended up going a different route so I won’t be installing Cura, but it’s good to know.

[FulmenParticipant @fulmen]

As for the source of the crashes I have come this far in analyzing the minidump:

DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE (9f)
A driver has failed to complete a power IRP within a specific time.
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000003, A device object has been blocking an IRP for too long a time
Arg2: ffffc4841ec50dc0, Physical Device Object of the stack
Arg3: ffff92026b099680, nt!TRIAGE_9F_POWER on Win7 and higher, otherwise the Functional Device Object of the stack
Arg4: ffffc483ef258a90, The blocked IRP

Which wasn’t very helpful. Then I saw this:
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0x9F_3_POWER_DOWN_CH341S64_IMAGE_UsbHub3.sys

I do have a cheap USB hub (with an integrated card reader) and an extra USB card reader plugged in, but as far as I can tell none of these use the CH341 driver. But I’ll unplug them for now and see if it makes any difference.

Edit:

Wow am I blind. The hub was using the UsbHub3.sys, so it’s a good bet it’s involved.

[steveh2024Participant @steveh2024]

I used to try out different distros  but have settled on Ubuntu and find it can do anything that Windows can do (and probably a lot more) but agree that there is a greater learning curve with Linux. Not good idea to keep switching to different distros as they all have slight differences which you then have to re-learn. Using Linux is definitely worth the effort to escape from the nagging and claws of Windows.

[Fulmen]

On Fulmen Said:

As for the source of the crashes I have come this far in analyzing the minidump:

DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE (9f)
A driver has failed to complete a power IRP within a specific time.

…

Edit:

Wow am I blind. The hub was using the UsbHub3.sys, so it’s a good bet it’s involved.

That suggests a hardware fault.  That’s nothing to do with Linux…

🙂

Dave

 

 

 

[FulmenParticipant @fulmen]

Oh, I’m sure I can find a way to put the blame blame on Linux either way.  😀

[Adam HarrisParticipant @adamharris13683]

For anyone who actually enjoys playing with Linux for CNC, I have an unused Mesa 7i76E card I bought from Mesa in California in 2017 which I am putting up for sale in the classifieds here. I never got to grips with Linux and as soon as I saw Rocketronics ELS for non-programmers I happily forgot about the idea and waited for something cheaper to turn up, which it did – the French ELS I have just bought. Anyway, if anyone is interested please PM me. I am never going to use it but I would like to get something for it to put against my foolhardy investment in the card but also in that standalone Linux computer Dell optiplex 760 (which I would include for free).

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