Interest in pictures of models

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

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[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

br Where are your pictures ? you don't appear to have an album

Roy

[Colin HeseltineParticipant @colinheseltine48622]

Br,

If you want comments we need to see the pictures. I've just tried to view your Sirius image you posted, but it comes up with a Not Found message.

Colin

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

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[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

I'm all for pictures of models in the narrow sense i.e. of miniature copies of real machines but my definition of 'model' is much wider. Engineering models rather than model railways, toy soldiers, and baby traction engines, lovely though they all are.

To me a model is anything that represents the structure and/or behaviour of the real world. Models can be diagrams, words, numbers, formulae, symbols, graphs, 2D plans, and computer programs just as effectively as a physical build. Modelling includes ideas and concepts, verbal descriptions of mechanisms, chemical formula, and music. Einstein's Theory of Relativity is a Model, and so is Ohms Law.

I also accept 'Model Engineering' in the sense of being exemplary, worthy, and so good it has to be imitated. Again this applies widely, for example to Clockmaking and Restoring Vintage Cars, not just to Cathedrals made of matchsticks and Dolls House furniture.

Modelling is a Broad Church – why not enjoy it all?

Dave

 

 

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 12/01/2021 12:06:33

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

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[Dave WoottonParticipant @davewootton]

Hi All

I've got all brave and posted a bit of a build log on my 2 1/2" gauge loco rebuild, with some rather jumbled pictures, hopefully this may encourage others, I like to see all types of construction threads, even ones I probably wouldn't build, we can learn so much from other disciplines.

looking forward to seeing some more pictures.

Dave

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember12892]

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[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by br on 12/01/2021 12:22:53:

Baby traction engine ?

I have a 3/4 scale Allchin which is a copy of the real machine so is this ok ?

br

More than OK! But how much does it weigh compared with full-size? Surely it's a 'Baby' in the tonnage stakes?

Trouble with setting rules about what is or isn't a 'model' is a 3/4 scale Allchin might not qualify. A purist could argue it's big enough to do real work, and is therefore a small full-size engine, not a model.

I disagree with the narrow view. I think it's well within the scope of this forum, ME and MEW. I always have a good drool over Traction Engines at exhibitions however big or small they are. Wonderful beasts!

Dave

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[Phil PParticipant @philp]

Br

Is your model Allchin actually 3/4 scale, or is it really 3/4" to the foot ? or 1/16 scale ?
Cherry Hill made a superb 1/16 scale version many years ago.

Phil

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[IanTParticipant @iant]

"the same as Cherry's, but nowhere as good."

Very few peoples are… including mine!

IanT

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by br on 12/01/2021 13:19:10:

I'm all for pictures of models in the narrow sense

Dave = this is what you said previously.

In your last post you say as below :-

I disagree with the narrow view

Totally confused now, probably because my dementia is getting worse as time passes.

Br

I know the feeling.

I'm saying the narrow view is one that clamps down on what's considered a model on this forum. A few think Model Engineering is all about scale steam locomotives; I think they're wrong.

I'm interested in engineering models in the broadest sense, not just miniatures. In my book model railways are great, but so is fixing a 20 ton diesel shunter on a heritage railway.

Bring it all on, scale traction engines, model collieries, clocks, chemistry, astronomy, signalling, paintwork, electronics, forging, welding, whatever. If it involves making I'm up for it.

Apologies for misunderstanding your Allchin was 3/4 scale rather than 3/4". A 3/4" Allchin is definitely a model! Such is the range of expertise here I was quite prepared to believe your engine was big enough to fill a garage.

Dave

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[MeunierParticipant @meunier]

One of the most interesting construction series I have seen for years followed the construction of a bridge model.
Memory falls down on the job yet again but think it was a creek/river bridge, maybe Australian ?
I was well impressed.
DaveD

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Meunier on 12/01/2021 21:10:16:

One of the most interesting construction series I have seen for years followed the construction of a bridge model.
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Allow me, Dave : **LINK**

https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=132611&p=1

… I too was fascinated

MichaelG.

[Colin HeseltineParticipant @colinheseltine48622]

I must admit I also was fascinated by that model and the work that went into it.

Colin

[Oily RagParticipant @oilyrag]

My mum stopped me looking at pictures of models when I was 14!

[Tony Wright 1Participant @tonywright1]

Just to add . I build all types of models .Every type of model aircraft ,boats ,cars , live steam locomotives ,stationary steam even the odd traction engine ! etc . My only reemit (think that’s the right word ) is that they are working models. But I don’t class them all as model engineering.

PS Just off to steam test a boiler so if you don’t hear from me for a while you will have to wait for my injury’s to heal 🤣 TONY

[Paul LousickParticipant @paullousick59116]

Pictures of models are definitely more interesting than which lathe should I buy to the experienced users but important to others so that they can get started in model engineering. Therefore it is up to those who are building or have built a model to post more photos.

The Oxford dictionary describes a model (in an engineering sense) as a three-dimensional representation of a person or thing or of a proposed structure, typically on a smaller scale than the original.

As well as just viewing the articles on the front page under "Latest Forum Posts", older posts can be viewed on a particular topic (Workshop Techniques, 3D printers, Live Steam, Clocks, etc)

Thousands of members photos are on ME but most are in their album and you have to open it to see them. The problem being is that you have to find their post first which gets lost in the past. My 6" scale (half size) model of a Ruston Proctor traction engine is at ** Link **

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

It is also possible to click on Members Gallery towards the bottom of the home page to get every album on the forum to come up, scroll through that and click on any that look like they have models in them, you may hit lucky and fins an album like this

Edited By JasonB on 13/01/2021 19:28:36

[MeunierParticipant @meunier]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 12/01/2021 21:23:49:

Posted by Meunier on 12/01/2021 21:10:16:

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Allow me, Dave : **LINK**

https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=132611&p=1

… I too was fascinated

MichaelG.

Ahh, yes. Thank you Michael for the link and for your contributions to that thread, I did appreciate the research and craftsmanship shewn but had forgotten how disappointed I was at the abrupt ending.
Would have liked to have seen the conclusion of the project.
DaveD

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