Harrogate 2013

[Rik ShawParticipant @rikshaw]

Well I’ve been to the show at Harrogate today and ordered the new mill and lathe and thinking hacksaw and old arms I also splurged out on a small WARCO bandsaw.

Lots of kit (and blokes) crammed into quite a small space but at least I did not have to walk far to see the exhibits and trade stands.

I had not been to the show at Harrogate before and as enjoyable as it was I will probably stick to the Sandown show in future as it is nearer to me and enjoyably less crowded and more laid back.

Wife remarked on what an ugly looking crew filled the two halls which made me laugh. My own observation was the lack of young folk (OK it was Friday) and that the majority of us there seemed to be plus 55 years old and then some!

I had the distinct impression that this gathering of talented veterans were demonstrating the implacable spirit of skilled engineers en masse’ and were delivering a solid two finger salute to those that have been responsible for destroying the British engineering heritage as was.

Rik – reporting from Harrogate.

[Rik ShawParticipant @rikshaw]

Well I’ve been to the show at Harrogate today and ordered the new mill and lathe and thinking hacksaw and old arms I also splurged out on a small WARCO bandsaw.

Lots of kit (and blokes) crammed into quite a small space but at least I did not have to walk far to see the exhibits and trade stands.

I had not been to the show at Harrogate before and as enjoyable as it was I will probably stick to the Sandown show in future as it is nearer to me and enjoyably less crowded and more laid back.

Wife remarked on what an ugly looking crew filled the two halls which made me laugh. My own observation was the lack of young folk (OK it was Friday) and that the majority of us there seemed to be plus 55 years old and then some!

I had the distinct impression that this gathering of talented veterans were demonstrating the implacable spirit of skilled engineers en masse’ and were delivering a solid two finger salute to those that have been responsible for destroying the British engineering heritage as was.

Rik – reporting from Harrogate.

[Rik ShawParticipant @rikshaw]

Well I’ve been to the show at Harrogate today and ordered the new mill and lathe and thinking hacksaw and old arms I also splurged out on a small WARCO bandsaw.

Lots of kit (and blokes) crammed into quite a small space but at least I did not have to walk far to see the exhibits and trade stands.

I had not been to the show at Harrogate before and as enjoyable as it was I will probably stick to the Sandown show in future as it is nearer to me and enjoyably less crowded and more laid back.

Wife remarked on what an ugly looking crew filled the two halls which made me laugh. My own observation was the lack of young folk (OK it was Friday) and that the majority of us there seemed to be plus 55 years old and then some!

I had the distinct impression that this gathering of talented veterans were demonstrating the implacable spirit of skilled engineers en masse’ and were delivering a solid two finger salute to those that have been responsible for destroying the British engineering heritage as was.

Rik – reporting from Harrogate.

[Rik ShawParticipant @rikshaw]

well?????

[Boiler BriParticipant @boilerbri]

Lucky you. I have to work all weekend.I just make it under your 55 mark. Lol,

Brian

[Boiler BriParticipant @boilerbri]

Lucky you. I have to work all weekend.I just make it under your 55 mark. Lol,

Brian

[Boiler BriParticipant @boilerbri]

Lucky you. I have to work all weekend.I just make it under your 55 mark. Lol,

Brian

[Boiler BriParticipant @boilerbri]

Lucky you. I have to work all weekend.I just make it under your 55 mark. Lol,

Brian

[Boiler BriParticipant @boilerbri]

Lucky you. I have to work all weekend.I just make it under your 55 mark. Lol,

Brian

[Boiler BriParticipant @boilerbri]

Lucky you. I have to work all weekend.I just make it under your 55 mark. Lol,

Brian

[SpringbokParticipant @springbok]

Well I used to love going to Harrogate but these days now in 70s, and driveing from deepest cider country to up there is a NO…I used to visit an old comrades grave while in the area. My son is more intrerested in programming call centers and if anything slightly more complicated than a screwdriver needed someone gets called in. Sad but as Ketan says of Arc we can no longer afford to shut our web site for a week. If anyone bumps into old DAG Brown say Bob T gives his regards

Bob

[SpringbokParticipant @springbok]

Well I used to love going to Harrogate but these days now in 70s, and driveing from deepest cider country to up there is a NO…I used to visit an old comrades grave while in the area. My son is more intrerested in programming call centers and if anything slightly more complicated than a screwdriver needed someone gets called in. Sad but as Ketan says of Arc we can no longer afford to shut our web site for a week. If anyone bumps into old DAG Brown say Bob T gives his regards

Bob

[SpringbokParticipant @springbok]

Well I used to love going to Harrogate but these days now in 70s, and driveing from deepest cider country to up there is a NO…I used to visit an old comrades grave while in the area. My son is more intrerested in programming call centers and if anything slightly more complicated than a screwdriver needed someone gets called in. Sad but as Ketan says of Arc we can no longer afford to shut our web site for a week. If anyone bumps into old DAG Brown say Bob T gives his regards

Bob

[Bob PerkinsParticipant @bobperkins67044]

"Deepest cider country" Must be Somerset?

[Bob PerkinsParticipant @bobperkins67044]

"Deepest cider country" Must be Somerset?

[Bob PerkinsParticipant @bobperkins67044]

"Deepest cider country" Must be Somerset?

[Alan HopwoodParticipant @alanhopwood63369]

Just about to set off on the long drive to the showground. it must be all of eleven miles. Will give DAG the usual greetings. Was there on Thursday afternoon and was a bit worried about the lack of trade support. We'll see what today brings. Nodoubt I'll still spend a B…. fortune on stuff I'll never use. One sets out with the idea that having the tooling will make you a better engineer, but reality kicks in when it comes to actually doing the job.

Alan

[Alan HopwoodParticipant @alanhopwood63369]

Just about to set off on the long drive to the showground. it must be all of eleven miles. Will give DAG the usual greetings. Was there on Thursday afternoon and was a bit worried about the lack of trade support. We'll see what today brings. Nodoubt I'll still spend a B…. fortune on stuff I'll never use. One sets out with the idea that having the tooling will make you a better engineer, but reality kicks in when it comes to actually doing the job.

Alan

[Alan HopwoodParticipant @alanhopwood63369]

Just about to set off on the long drive to the showground. it must be all of eleven miles. Will give DAG the usual greetings. Was there on Thursday afternoon and was a bit worried about the lack of trade support. We'll see what today brings. Nodoubt I'll still spend a B…. fortune on stuff I'll never use. One sets out with the idea that having the tooling will make you a better engineer, but reality kicks in when it comes to actually doing the job.

Alan

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

I went yesterday.

True there are gaps in hall 2 where all the larger traders are but I felt that it was well attended, in fact I felt attendance was back to where it was 4 or so years ago.

Club stands were very busy, that busy it was often best to miss a stand, look at something else and go back later.

Usual very well organised show in a beautiful and relaxed location by The Rex family and usual crew of helpers.

I wonder if we are not going back to shows of old where the models took centre stage and trade content was at a minimum because there wasn't the number of traders there is today.

I personally still feel there are too many shows in the Calendar for a country the size of the UK.

Two shows in London within a month is insane, one or both has got to suffer.

Traders I spoke to seemed happy with the attendance but most were also in agreement with Proops, Chronos, Arc's decisions to rely on telephone and Internet sales. However you got the impression they were sitting on the wall and wouldn't take much to push them off.

Would I go again next year ? too right in my book this is the best show of the year with Bristol a close second because of the diversity of the models on show there.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

I went yesterday.

True there are gaps in hall 2 where all the larger traders are but I felt that it was well attended, in fact I felt attendance was back to where it was 4 or so years ago.

Club stands were very busy, that busy it was often best to miss a stand, look at something else and go back later.

Usual very well organised show in a beautiful and relaxed location by The Rex family and usual crew of helpers.

I wonder if we are not going back to shows of old where the models took centre stage and trade content was at a minimum because there wasn't the number of traders there is today.

I personally still feel there are too many shows in the Calendar for a country the size of the UK.

Two shows in London within a month is insane, one or both has got to suffer.

Traders I spoke to seemed happy with the attendance but most were also in agreement with Proops, Chronos, Arc's decisions to rely on telephone and Internet sales. However you got the impression they were sitting on the wall and wouldn't take much to push them off.

Would I go again next year ? too right in my book this is the best show of the year with Bristol a close second because of the diversity of the models on show there.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

I went yesterday.

True there are gaps in hall 2 where all the larger traders are but I felt that it was well attended, in fact I felt attendance was back to where it was 4 or so years ago.

Club stands were very busy, that busy it was often best to miss a stand, look at something else and go back later.

Usual very well organised show in a beautiful and relaxed location by The Rex family and usual crew of helpers.

I wonder if we are not going back to shows of old where the models took centre stage and trade content was at a minimum because there wasn't the number of traders there is today.

I personally still feel there are too many shows in the Calendar for a country the size of the UK.

Two shows in London within a month is insane, one or both has got to suffer.

Traders I spoke to seemed happy with the attendance but most were also in agreement with Proops, Chronos, Arc's decisions to rely on telephone and Internet sales. However you got the impression they were sitting on the wall and wouldn't take much to push them off.

Would I go again next year ? too right in my book this is the best show of the year with Bristol a close second because of the diversity of the models on show there.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, I went yesterday and got there around midday and the place was quite full. As John has said it was best to miss one or two stands and go back later.

I had to stand a watch the trains go by on the big layout whilst eating my lunch as there where no empty seats available anywhere to sit down.

It was also a bit of a hussle to veiw things on a lot the trade stands, even at about 2.30, maybe the reduced number of the major traders ment more people round the rest of them.

Like John says there is a good diversity of models on show, one I was intrigued by was a Swing Surface Grinder which is described in MEW 45 & 46, a good example of what can be done with a cheap bench grinder.

Regards Nick.

Edited By Nicholas Farr on 11/05/2013 10:47:29

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, I went yesterday and got there around midday and the place was quite full. As John has said it was best to miss one or two stands and go back later.

I had to stand a watch the trains go by on the big layout whilst eating my lunch as there where no empty seats available anywhere to sit down.

It was also a bit of a hussle to veiw things on a lot the trade stands, even at about 2.30, maybe the reduced number of the major traders ment more people round the rest of them.

Like John says there is a good diversity of models on show, one I was intrigued by was a Swing Surface Grinder which is described in MEW 45 & 46, a good example of what can be done with a cheap bench grinder.

Regards Nick.

Edited By Nicholas Farr on 11/05/2013 10:47:29

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Missed the swing surface grinder, not that i would have been that interested as i have a commercial model but for anyone who hasn't used one of these things they are awesome.

Normally surface grinding is down to small amounts per pass, often 1/2 thou or so and then traverse the work, fast they are not.

The swing grinders will remover a thou at a time easily [ more if you are rushing ] but cover the whole job at one pass, very fast.

Problem with the swing grinder is it leaves swirl marks and not linear marks which some don't like.

I use mine a lot, often milling down to a few thou above and grind to size. In fact the normal surface grinder has had that little use for the last few years I sold it two weeks ago and rely on the swing grinder.

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