Hmmm,

The cylinder ‘looks’ to be sort of ‘basic Burrel’ in nature. There are a lot of 3″ Burrel’s about, but it’s hard to be definitive. And the bolier…. Unfortunately….. IF there is no paperwork with it, then it really is worthless. For steel boilers to be certificated there needs to be a traceable material spec, traceable drawings, manufacturer info / certification too. This is far less of an issue for copper as ‘copper is copper’ and apart from using old plumbing pipes, it’s going to be ‘normal copper’. For steel there are a myriad of grades of material, the same for welding rods and also the skills /  certification of the welder will be unknown. There are some combinations which are quite potentially lethal in terms of explosion. Copper is also more benign if it fails, steel is not… It can go Boom!

Hope that helps a little, but sorry to potentially the bearer / confirmer of bad news on the kettle.

Kindest regards.

There will NOTHING more disheartening than to have spent thousands of pounds and hours building a working model for it to NOT work ! You will need ALL the steam you can generate to make these models work well and to try and fit a smaller copper boiler inside a steel shell would be difficult if not impossible and probably cause alsorts of problems in testing. Fake firebox sides/horn plates is not unusual but beyond that it would get tricky, need a NEW design of boiler and then you would have to get that approved. Noel.

Hi All,

Bit of a long shot on the model origin here….  Given the quality of the cylinder casting and the somewhat ‘rough’ internals of the smoke box etc…. The cylinder does not look like a high quality / accurate casting, so should be a freelance ‘lump’ done a while back at a local foundry. The engine could therefore be a freelance job based on a ‘generic’ single agricultural, or the originator based the engine on a prototype that was not supported by commercial castings. The ‘E-Bay’ box as was originally stated does indeed contain Allchin parts but also probably everything traction engine shaped that was also lying around…. I think the non Allchin parts will ultimately become interesting door stops….