MoD solution for lack of RN Carrier Force

MoD solution for lack of RN Carrier Force

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  • #6261
    Flying Fifer
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      #95150
      Flying Fifer
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        @flyingfifer

        Possible Folding wing variant of the Typhoon for chucking out the back of Hercules transports. Could also bring back the Short Belfast as a "super carrier". I take it that the guys were well strapped in (in the Herc) wouldn`t like to get that close to an air intake.

        Reminds me of an old song "Come inside " etc.etc. Great pics Jason

        Alan

        #95152
        Jeff Dayman
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          @jeffdayman43397

          I would think that flight that close to an open cargo door would be extremely risky, as the buffeting around the door could easily cause a compressor stall in the Typhoon. Could this be a near collision incident, or a Phototshop fake?

          These aircraft are FAR too close if it is a real photo.

          JD

          #95154
          David Littlewood
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            @davidlittlewood51847

            Unfortunately the photo has been cropped far to closely to make sense of it – I would never have had any idea it wasn't just a ground photo if you hadn't described what the issue was. Indeed, on thinking about it, that could still be the case, there's nothing to contradict that.

            David

            Edited By David Littlewood on 26/07/2012 17:24:36

            #95158
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              I'm sure the camera has shortened the perspective but the other photos in the album confirm it is in the air and not on the ground.

              **LINK**

              #95160
              David Littlewood
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                @davidlittlewood51847

                OK, now I believe it! Of course, if taken with a long lens from fairly far forward in the cargo hold, the perspective would make the Typhoon look a lot closer than it really is.

                David

                (Now I feel a bit like a party pooper…)

                #95162
                Sub Mandrel
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                  @submandrel

                  It's cropped compared to the previous shot, so perhaps the plane isn't as close as it might at first appear?

                  That said if the MoD have no carrier what do we do if the Argentines invade the Falklands?

                  Just strap George Osborne to an ICBM targetted on Buenos Aires; he can take control of their economy and bring them to their knees in weeks!

                  Neil

                  #95178
                  Ady1
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                    @ady1

                    The French will rescue us if there's any problems

                    #95183
                    jason udall
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                      @jasonudall57142

                      Hi guys thought you might like some behind the scenes

                      **LINK**

                      #95184
                      David Colwill
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                        @davidcolwill19261

                        The take off should be fairly easy, the main problem as I see it is landing it back in there!

                        #95237
                        Sub Mandrel
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                          @submandrel

                          You need Destiny, Symphony and Harmony on the crew.

                          Neil

                          #95246
                          jason udall
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                            @jasonudall57142

                            Ahh" Destiny, Symphony and Harmony"….

                            seem to remember those had canards to…

                            SIG

                            #95247
                            jason udall
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                              @jasonudall57142

                              Wouldnt "Cloudbase" be a carrier anyway?

                              #95261
                              Martin W
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                                @martinw

                                Oops

                                A minor cock up in the titling, RAF Lyneham is in Wiltshire not Oxfordsdhire blush and is or has been closed down and is now to become a Defence Training Centre. The Hercules fleet have been relocated to Brize Norton which is in Oxfordshire.

                                Liked to clip and the little error doesn't detract from it.

                                Cheers

                                Martin

                                #95290
                                V8Eng
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                                  @v8eng

                                  Some years ago the planes from Lyneham could be seen practising low and slow over the M4 and Leigh Delamere services.

                                  The Hercules often had the rear door open, they were quite a sight and its a wonder there were not road accidents caused by distracted drivers.

                                  Edited By V8Eng on 28/07/2012 21:09:03

                                  #95293
                                  Sub Mandrel
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                                    @submandrel

                                    > seem to remember those had canards to…

                                    Most of Gerry Anderson's design's all seemed to have at least one foot in reality. I understand he was delighted when some aeronatics students did a project to prove that, in principle, Thunderbird 2 could fly.

                                    Neil

                                    #95307
                                    jason udall
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                                      @jasonudall57142

                                      Anderson seemed to predict much…

                                      spectrum..hat type radio…looks like hands free unit for phone..

                                      space1999..more mobile phone like gadets..

                                      …………non leathal stun guns..taser?

                                      ufo…err let me get back to that.

                                      thunderbirds…Vto hl…tb1…nazi interceptor late ww2…

                                      tb2 ,,,russian helicopter..still in use.

                                      tb5 shuttle ?

                                      #95354
                                      Chris Trice
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                                        Posted by jason udall on 28/07/2012 01:33:59:

                                        Ahh" Destiny, Symphony and Harmony"….

                                        seem to remember those had canards to…

                                        SIG

                                        Rhapsody and Melody will be upset to be excluded. The Angel Interceptor is the plane in question and considering it was designed around 1966, not too far from the aircraft we're seeing today.

                                        It's not surprising that the aircraft featured in the various Anderson series looked so good. Both Derek Meddings and Mike Trim who designed most of them were both keen aircraft fanatics and often looked at what was on the drawing board and extrapolated it into the future. When Mike left the Century 21 studios, he went to work for Profile Publications artworking aircraft profiles. He also painted the cover painting of Jeff Waynes "War Of The Worlds" album and currently he's painting new box art for Airfix (all the space kits, HMS Hood to name a few).

                                        #95370
                                        martin perman 1
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                                          @martinperman1

                                          Gentlemen,

                                          I found this, thought you all might like to see it **LINK**

                                          Martin P

                                          #95372
                                          martin perman 1
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                                            @martinperman1

                                            Gentlemen,

                                            Whoops, already done frown

                                            #95378
                                            jason udall
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                                              @jasonudall57142

                                              Chris..

                                              Posted by jason udall on 28/07/2012 01:33:59:

                                              Ahh" Destiny, Symphony and Harmony"….

                                              seem to remember those had canards to…

                                              SIG

                                              "Rhapsody and Melody will be upset to be excluded. The Angel Interceptor is the plane in question …"

                                              No slight intended…

                                              And as my father would say…"when in hole..stop digging"

                                              .

                                              #95392
                                              doubletop
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                                                @doubletop

                                                Thats the real thing. They get that close when tanking, it just seems unatural. Just imagine what it's like with a VC10 that close tanking from a Tristar. These aren't connected but you can see from the probes the VC10's are equipped to tank off their mates.

                                                The Tristars don't need probes they can carry enough fuel to enable them to stay airbourne for some considerable time.

                                                Pete

                                                #95394
                                                David Littlewood
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                                                  @davidlittlewood51847

                                                  I'm no expert, but I believe the flying sting method of refuelling used by the USAF inveolves even closer flying.

                                                  David

                                                  #95397
                                                  V8Eng
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                                                    @v8eng

                                                    I think that when the 2 Vulcans flew down to bomb the runway at Port Stanley, a fleet of Victors was used to refuel them and a complicated scheme was worked out to make sure the Victors could keep refueling each other and the Vulcans, all done in flight.

                                                    Seems that everything was at the very limits of range and it all got rather close to disaster at times.

                                                    The whole organisation was prepared in a very short time frame into the bargain.

                                                    Even then only one Vulcan actually made it, one dropped out due to other problems.

                                                    There was BBC programme earlier this year about the raid, called "Falklands' most daring raid", if repeated it would be worth watching.

                                                     

                                                    Edited By V8Eng on 30/07/2012 13:13:46

                                                    #95403
                                                    Ian S C
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                                                      @iansc

                                                      image (640x377).jpgA photo of a pair of RNZAF A-4 K Skyhawks plugged, that shows the short hose used by the USN for buddy fueling. Ian S C

                                                      Edited By Ian S C on 30/07/2012 15:27:54

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