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  • #307376
    Nige
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      @nige81730

      As a novice I was particularly pleased to see the front of the latest MEW, 257. The advertised article "Making a Chuck Key" was exactly what I needed and could probably cope with, a true 'article for beginners'. My joy has turned to sadness as I cannot find said article anywhere 😢

      #38422
      Nige
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        @nige81730
        #307392
        John P
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          @johnp77052

          Hi Nige,

          Keep digging you will find some more of these if you look,i have to say i was somewhat confused by the caption

          on the photo bottom right on page 55 ,see top left page 54.

          John

          #307406
          Neil Wyatt
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            @neilwyatt

            We had to hold it and Tom Senior over to the next issue, but the cover didn't get updated – sorry!

            Neil

            #307413
            John C
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              @johnc47954

              A 'Senior Moment'……?

               

              I'll get me coat.

              Edited By John C on 16/07/2017 10:19:46

              #307416
              SillyOldDuffer
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                @sillyoldduffer

                Hi Nige,

                Make two chuck keys for your 4-jaw. Being able to slacken and tighten opposing jaws at the same time makes it much easier to centre work.

                By the way your 0.01mm run-out was good for a first effort. Took me a few sessions to get the hang of it and I'm still slow.

                Dave

                #307422
                Bazyle
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                  @bazyle

                  If making a key make it + shaped rather than T shape. The other end can be used for another chuck or for a hex for the tool holder screws.

                  #307439
                  Hopper
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                    @hopper

                    Chuck keys are like that: they disappear as soon as nobody is holding them down. I even painted mine bright red and made a special clip for it to hang from right there on the lathe where I need it – and the b!@#$%y thing still can never be found.

                    #307458
                    Harry Wilkes
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                      @harrywilkes58467
                      Posted by Hopper on 16/07/2017 12:55:12:

                      Chuck keys are like that: they disappear as soon as nobody is holding them down. I even painted mine bright red and made a special clip for it to hang from right there on the lathe where I need it – and the b!@#$%y thing still can never be found.

                      Must be a cousin to my pillar drill chuck key, now my old Bosch pistol drill chuck key never run's away maybe because it's so old wink

                      H

                      #307460
                      Nige
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                        @nige81730

                        Dave: Thanks, that was exactly why I was happy to see that making a chuck key was to be found inside the latest issue. I watched a great YouTube video on using the 4 jaw which used two chuck keys. I can manage the simple challenge of making a chuck key using hand tools though 😀

                        Nige

                        #307727
                        Howard Lewis
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                          @howardlewis46836

                          Shouldn't be too difficult. In the crudest from, take the bar intended for the Key, diameter such that it can be filed down to the size of the square (or hexagon – see later) , and cross drill for the metal intended for the Handle.

                          File, ideally mill, to the size of square that fits the socket for the chuck jaw, (round the corners a little before trying in the socket). Once the business end is the required fit,,preferably drill and tap the end for the Handle, to take a securing grubscrew. Fit the handle , tighten grubscrew, and you are in business.

                          The nice way to do it is to mill the square, if possible.

                          For a chuck with hexagon sockets, find a piece of hexagon bar of the right size, or using the flats as a guide, file down each flat in turn, to fit the socket, and put the Handle on in the same way.

                          Two Keys can be a big help in centering the work in a four jaw.

                          Howard

                          #307729
                          SillyOldDuffer
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                            @sillyoldduffer
                            Posted by Nige on 16/07/2017 14:59:03:

                            I can manage the simple challenge of making a chuck key using hand tools though 😀

                            Nige

                            I disagree Nige. Hand tools are a complete waste of your valuable time.

                            The need to make a pair of chuck keys is the perfect justification for buying a milling machine, rotary table, collet chuck, collet set, clamps, machine vice, DTI, DRO and cutters. Go on, you know you want to…

                            smiley

                            Dave

                            #307737
                            MW
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                              @mw27036
                              Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 18/07/2017 12:52:13:

                              Posted by Nige on 16/07/2017 14:59:03:

                              I can manage the simple challenge of making a chuck key using hand tools though 😀

                              Nige

                              I disagree Nige. Hand tools are a complete waste of your valuable time.

                              The need to make a pair of chuck keys is the perfect justification for buying a milling machine, rotary table, collet chuck, collet set, clamps, machine vice, DTI, DRO and cutters. Go on, you know you want to…

                              smiley

                              Dave

                              Indeed, Keeping the commercial interests of the hobby alive means always buying more! stay well away from those simple curmudgeons your grandfather may have used and stick to modern technology. That way we can make £3000 out of you rather than £30.

                              Michael W

                              #307743
                              Neil Wyatt
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                                @neilwyatt
                                Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 18/07/2017 12:52:13:

                                Posted by Nige on 16/07/2017 14:59:03:

                                I can manage the simple challenge of making a chuck key using hand tools though 😀

                                Nige

                                I disagree Nige. Hand tools are a complete waste of your valuable time.

                                The need to make a pair of chuck keys is the perfect justification for buying a milling machine, rotary table, collet chuck, collet set, clamps, machine vice, DTI, DRO and cutters. Go on, you know you want to…

                                smiley

                                Dave

                                Damn, my plastic 3D printed chuck key has snapped! I had better invest in a laser sintering version

                                #307758
                                Gordon W
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                                  @gordonw

                                  Just find a bit of already square bar of the right size aprox. Door handle bar is ok for a lot of smaller chucks. Does not need anything exotic, not a lot of force needed.

                                  #307764
                                  Nige
                                  Participant
                                    @nige81730

                                    Get thee behind me Satan, or in this case Dave and Micheal W. I would spend the money if I had it but I don't so I can't I'm not even going to think about asking the "What Mill should I buy" question

                                    #307770
                                    larry Phelan
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                                      @larryphelan54019

                                      My drill chuck key is fitted to a length of chain fixed to the machine itself,so no more hunting around for it. The mill tool for knocking out the morse taper sleeves is also on a chain,always to hand. Lathe keys clipped to the outside of the gear housing.

                                      Now regarding centering work in the 4 jaw chuck,I came across a photo on the cover of a book by no less a man than Tubal Cain. He admits himself that when he saw the picture,he went into shock,thinking of all the time he had wasted over the years ! I tried it,and Bingo! ,it works ! Simple and effective.

                                      #307779
                                      SillyOldDuffer
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                                        @sillyoldduffer
                                        Posted by Nige on 18/07/2017 17:26:27:

                                        Get thee behind me Satan, or in this case Dave and Micheal W.

                                        A misprint surely! That should be 'Santa', not 'Satan'.

                                        You deserve a treat, the more expensive the better. I have it on good authority that Neil's already ordered a Laser Sintering 3D printer. You can trust us, honest: I'm a doctor.

                                        Mills available in all good toyshops, easy terms available; what could possibly go wrong?

                                        Dave

                                        Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 18/07/2017 18:15:20

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