Posted by Dave Halford on 16/09/2022 15:27:33:
L 6 are rare as your ad on Ebay shows, you are it. None are coming up sold either.
You've got 2 bidders, none of which are traders so they might fight it out.
L6 are just too big and heavy for transport and most shed workshops.
It's definitely a garage or concrete-floored dedicated workshop sized machine tool, I wouldn't fancy my chances trying to move it over even a well designed suspended floor.
That said, I can't agree the L6 is too big or heavy to transport, I can be pretty confident saying that because it's a little smaller than and half the weight of my TOS S32 which I moved myself.
It's just a matter of being suitably prepared for the undertaking, so one would reasonable expect a significant amount of disruption on the day of collection, with the buyer being on site for several hours, along with bringing assistance and significant amounts of equipment, unless they have paid a professional transport service to collect it with a HIAB vehicle which being a full sized commercial vehicle poses its own space related challenges.
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For Jeremy's benefit:
If someone is comes to move this lathe themselves you should reasonably expect them to be bringing:
- A Transit sized van or a large car/4×4/pickup and trailer.
- A lifting gantry or engine crane.
- Lifting slings or chains and shackles
- Machine Skates or many stout metal rollers (lengths of scaffold pole are a common choice).
- A pry bar and a jack.
- lots of wooden blocks to assist with stabilising/supporting whilst they're lifting.
They will need to use the jack to get the rollers or skates under the lathe (possibly using the pry bar to get the jack under there first), then manouvre it to the loading area using pushing, pulling and prying, even relatively small obstacles (minor bumps, rough patches on concrete) will add time to this, and traversing a small curb could easily add 45mins to an hour. If they're going up or down even a small slope they will need to anchor to something stout in order to lower or raise the load under control using a strap, rope or winch.
They will then need enough space to get their lifting equipment around the lathe, whilst still being able to reverse the vehicle or trailer they have brought into position once they do lift it. This space needs to be flat ground, and ideally some kind of hard even surface.
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If the buyer has arranged a transport firm:
The firm they will most likely bring a lorry mounted crane (possibly a demountable forklift in some cases), you should factor on this being on the large size for a non-articulated lorry with a turning circle of up to 41 feet (12.5m to be precise).
If the area it's coming from is tight for space and you want to minimise disruption ask the buyer to have the transport company ring you in advance so that you can plan the parking arrangement and any space which needs to be cleared in advance, and ensure that they know exactly where it's coming from and to bring additional manpower or equipment if neccessary.
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Some specialist transport firms who are set up for doing this kind of thing specifically do use tilting trailers with winches or transit-sized 5 or 7 tonne vans with small cranes mounted on them instead of larger vehicles, but they're not nearly as common as the more industrial type of operator.
If everything I've described previously was a bit off-putting I can give you the details of at least one possibly two such firms, so you can get a quote for transport controlled by you, then offer the lathe for sale delivered (which should attract a price premium above and beyond the cost of transport really).
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Hopefully all this is useful information to know, and will help make a potentially quite stressful experience which itself is part of a bigger more stressful life-event for your family that little bit less challenging.
Being fore-warned is fore-armed and all that!