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  • #339963
    Neil Wyatt
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      @neilwyatt

      Has anyone tried doing this?

      Lots of varying comment about etching aluminium out there.

      The obvious choice of caustic soda is no good as it will destroy the etch resist.

      Some sources say use ferric, others say its useless.

      One source suggests using ferric exhausted by use on copper – seems a bit dubious?

      Neil

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      Neil Wyatt
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        #339964
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133
          #339967
          Mark Rand
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            @markrand96270

            Chloride ions do quite a good job on aluminium oxide and aluminium is amphoteric. So, both ferric chloride and hydrochloric acid will work if the resist is stable in acid conditions. Don't bother with nitric or sulfuric acid. they'll tend to reinforce the oxide film.

            Edited By Mark Rand on 05/02/2018 23:04:33

            #339968
            Ian P
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              @ianp

              I suppose it depends on the reason you want to etch it. I assumed it was to create a keyed surface for accepting paint but as you mention resist it doesn't compute.

              Ian P

              #339974
              Paul Lousick
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                @paullousick59116

                Etching is a process by which you apply an acid to metal, causing uncovered parts to be "eaten away" by the acid to etch a specific design in your metal. You apply that design using a "resist," a substance that covers the areas on metal that you do not want to be etched. The uncovered areas of the metal will etch, leaving behind a raised impression of your design.

                Paul

                #339975
                I.M. OUTAHERE
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                  @i-m-outahere

                  I havent tried any process personally except for basic circuit boards with ferric but you may be able to use electrolytic etching to do what you want , there is a basic explanation on the instructabled website . They use a vinyl mask but it has me thinking something similar could be 3D printed and glued on to the face to be etched to make a mask .

                  Ian

                  #339982
                  Brian H
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                    @brianh50089

                    Wikipedia gives;

                    For aluminium

                    Brian

                    #339985
                    Les Jones 1
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                      @lesjones1

                      Hi Brian,
                      Sodium hydroxide is just the chemical name for caustic soda.

                      Les..

                      #339987
                      Neil Wyatt
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                        @neilwyatt

                        I want to use photo-resist, which is developed using NaOH and exposing it to the solution for too long destroys it.

                        Kellers reagent has nitric, hydrochloric and hydrofluoric acids in it – no thanks! It's used for revealing grain structure anyway.

                        I'll do a trial with ferric as I have plenty in stock.

                        #339991
                        John Haine
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                          @johnhaine32865

                          Washing soda, dissolves milk bottle tops and makes hydrogen.

                          #339996
                          Ian S C
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                            @iansc

                            Washing Soda, or even baking soda would be a good place to start.

                            Ian S C

                            #340016
                            Neil Wyatt
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                              @neilwyatt

                              Washing soda or baking will attack the resist too – they are weakly alkaline.

                              Neil

                              #340021
                              Roderick Jenkins
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                                @roderickjenkins93242

                                One of my text books suggests Cupric Chloride as a metallurgical etch for ally. A quick Google suggests that people do use it for larger scale etching on ally so this might be a useful lead.

                                HTH,

                                Rod

                                #340030
                                Dick H
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                                  @dickh

                                  This might be a bit of an aside but an old way of cleaning silver is to put a bit of aluminium foil in a brine (common salt) solution and then put a tarnished bit of silver in. It works, you can smell the hydrogen sulphide from the tarnish being removed. Afterwards the aluminium foil is pin holed, possibly selectively etched by the process. Perhaps an electrolytic process might be worth trying though the pH might change during the etch.

                                  Dick.

                                  #340038
                                  Mike Poole
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                                    @mikepoole82104

                                    It seems the problem is not what will etch aluminium but what the resist will resist. I found to my cost that brick cleaner eats aluminium which I did know but forgot to remove an aluminium nameplate when derusting.

                                    Mike

                                    #340040
                                    Neil Wyatt
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                                      @neilwyatt
                                      Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 06/02/2018 14:46:09:

                                      One of my text books suggests Cupric Chloride as a metallurgical etch for ally. A quick Google suggests that people do use it for larger scale etching on ally so this might be a useful lead.

                                      HTH,

                                      Rod

                                      That fits in with using ferric that's been exhausted etching circuit boards.

                                      #340046
                                      Johannes Grabsch
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                                        @johannesgrabsch91508

                                        Look here Folks:

                                        http://www.instructables.com/id/Create-custom-etched-aluminium-aluminum-art/

                                        He says Lemon juice might work as well.

                                        Regards

                                        Johannes

                                        #340052
                                        Alan Vos
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                                          @alanvos39612

                                          I was once asked to write on aluminium light bulb caps using chromic acid and a stick. At the time I thought that was etching, but it seems it produces a 'corrosion resistant' oxide layer. It might work as a resist.

                                          #340147
                                          Ian S C
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                                            @iansc

                                            Alan, you are right about the chromic acid, that's what we used in the aircraft industry to neutralize corrosion on aircraft skins{Alclad), then they got a coat of zinc chromate primer2012-09-15_0cfi painting (1)sam sands painting cfi (640x427).jpg

                                            Ian S C

                                            #340193
                                            David George 1
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                                              @davidgeorge1

                                              Hi Neil What are you trying to etch into the aluminium? the last time I had something done I had it laser etched and it didn't cost a fortune.

                                              David

                                              #340246
                                              John Purdy
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                                                @johnpurdy78347

                                                Neil

                                                As Rod says Cupric Chloride might be worth a try. I switched to using it for etching circuit boards many years ago as it has many advantages over Ferric Chloride (lasts forever as it is easily regenerated after use,amongst others) , and I can testify that it does etch aluminum as I have a heater mounted on an old ali electronic chassis that I use to heat the etchant and it has numerous well etched spots on it from spills.

                                                It can be easily made by dissolving 200gms CuCl2 in100gms conc. HCl (37.5 %) and diluting to 1 litre. The Cupric Chloride is readily available from pottery suppliers as a glaze material, and I use Muriatic acid (readily available at a builders supply) adjusting the quantity as it is normally only supplied as 20 baume which has a density of 1.16 as apposed to the conc. which is 1.18. If maintained at a density of 1.17 g/mL and a acid concentration of 3.5 to 4.0 % or 1.1 to 1.3 Molar it lasts for ever and just keeps increasing in volume.

                                                John

                                                #549293
                                                Sam Griffiths
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                                                  @samgriffiths61873

                                                  Not sure if you ever solved this, but I've been etching Aluminium with electro-etching. There are plenty of videos on youtube. It really seems to be the only way to do it at home with decent results. It also gives whatever you're using as a mask a better chance of not being removed by extreme reactions of heat and corrosion.

                                                  #549312
                                                  Vic
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                                                    @vic

                                                    I’ve had stuff Anodised professionally on a few occasions and as I didn’t want a shiny finish they said they’d etch it with Sodium Hydroxide. I’ve always thought sand blasting was a good start for painting aluminium and this was confirmed in a YouTube video I watched some time ago.

                                                    #549348
                                                    Robin
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                                                      @robin

                                                      Could you put an extra, caustic proof layer below the etch resist and develop that in a second tank?

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