5″ Locomotive without casting

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15 March 2016 at 21:00 #230157
Kevin Bennett
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hi all I am looking at my next project i have done lots of stationary engines and i like building them without castings now I need something more .

my preference is a 5" loco without casting does one exists, comments please.

ty Kevin
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15 March 2016 at 21:00 #24440
Kevin Bennett
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15 March 2016 at 23:25 #230179
Bazyle
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15 March 2016 at 23:42 #230183
AndyP
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I think most of Kozo Hiraoka's locos are done without castings, you will have to scale for 5" gauge though! The Heisler in our club is a beauty!

Andy
15 March 2016 at 23:50 #230185
clivel
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Barclay Well Tank engines are currently being serialised in ME in 5" gauge by Terence Holland in both 0-4-0 and 0-6-0 versions.

As far as I recall the intention is to describe the construction of these engines without castings.

Clive
15 March 2016 at 23:58 #230186
nigel jones 5
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I have never bought castings, ive bought plans but thats all – follow the plans, buy raw materials and save a fortune, plus you will know its all your own work
16 March 2016 at 12:46 #230248
Kevin Bennett
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thanks for the info i have some thinking to do as this will my first Loco, i am lucky because I can get all the materials as my Son is a toolmaker.

thanks Kevin
16 March 2016 at 12:55 #230250
Nigel Bennett
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If you're thinking of having spoked wheels, you should consider castings for those. If you keep your eyes open on the second-hand market, they sometimes come up; that might dictate your choice of prototype.

My current loco has everything fabricated except the wheels; I made my own patterns for those and Blackgates cast them for me at a reasonable cost. The cylinders were made from brass because I happened to have some, and it silver-solders very well. Cast iron liners were fitted for piston valves and main bores.

Going back to the spoked wheels, John Heslop described how he chewed his wheels out of solid for one of his creations, a 5"G rebuilt Royal Scot if memory serves. I can't now recall if it was in ME or in Another Place.
16 March 2016 at 13:29 #230255
Another JohnS
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As AndyP says, Kozo Hiraoka.

If you purchase the books, he has scaling up directions in them – boilers, springs, etc. Note that North America is 4-3/4" gauge, mainly, while the rest of the world is 5" gauge, but making the gauge adjustment will be trivial.

I'm finishing up a Shay locomotive (3-1/2" gauge, the "original", not the "New" Shay) and the instructions and drawings are incredible. Highly recommended, even just for the construction information.

John.
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