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    Michael Smith 15
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      I have been given two banks of small NIFE cells .These are quite old and have not been charged or used for many years . I have tried searching the net but can not find much about regenerating old cells .As I understand it these cells are virtually indestructible ,what i would like to know is ,what should the electrolyte level be ,how to make new electrolyte ,and how to wash out the cells prior to refilling .The cells are 5 inches tall 1.5 deep and 3 inches wide and difficult to see inside . In total i have 25 cells .What is the voltage of each cell and what is the best way to charge them . Thanks Mike

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      Michael Smith 15
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        John McNamara
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          Hi Michael

          A couple of months back a mate and I were discussing them for a solar system. When telephone exchanges were mechanical they were used to back up the power supply. Did the railways also use them? They last for years and years if looked after.
          Unfortunately the feed back tariffs are now so low in Australia that the system we were designing was not feasible.

          This link describes them…. **LINK**

          Or a general search… **LINK**

          Regards
          John

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          Michael Gilligan
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            Posted by Michael Smith 15 on 27/06/2014 13:07:40:

            I have been given two banks of small NIFE cells .These are quite old and have not been charged or used for many years . I have tried searching the net but can not find much about regenerating old cells .As I understand it these cells are virtually indestructible ,what i would like to know is ,what should the electrolyte level be ,how to make new electrolyte ,and how to wash out the cells prior to refilling .The cells are 5 inches tall 1.5 deep and 3 inches wide and difficult to see inside . In total i have 25 cells .What is the voltage of each cell and what is the best way to charge them . Thanks Mike

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            Before the advent of LEDs, NiFe cells were popular with Cavers, for their helmet lamps … it might be worth searching the caving forums.

            MichaelG.

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            P.S. … Just found this, which seems to contain some "informed" advice.

            Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/06/2014 13:36:01

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            Howi
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              I remember having an ex minors lamp I used for caving ( speleology if you want to get posh), these were much better than the older lead acid ones, encased in stainless steal. And could take quite a battering.

              they used potassium hydroxide for the electrolyte and the cells were 1.2 volts ( 3 cells in the minors lamp if I recall correctly.

              very hardy and virtually indestructible.

              #156425
              Cornish Jack
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                First introduced to NiFe cells in '58 on the Beverley conversion course. Ideal for the Bev 'cos so much of the working bits were electric. Lots and lots of them in the battery box a flat topped storage area, much used as a rest area! From memory (not necessarily reliable) fast charge and discharge and no sulphation problems etc.

                Rgds

                Bill

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                Ian S C
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                  Nife cells were the standard type used by miners in the past, don't know what the current standard is.

                  Remember dad talking of them in relation to his war time work as a Radar mechanic (may have been standby power).

                  As said above, the electrolyte is potassium hydroxide, but with the addition of a small amount of lithium hydroxide. The latter acts as a preservative for the grid material.

                  Best stored discharged.

                  I think that before the days of NiCads, the NZ Railways used them for the power supply on passenger trains.

                  Ian S C

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                  Michael Smith 15
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                    @michaelsmith15

                    Thanks for al the links and information .I have put the batteries on charge and they seem to be holding a charge .I want to use them to drive master and slave clocks for which they are ideal as I can use them to supply voltage in multiplies of 1.2 volts. Mike

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