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  • #111334
    MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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      @michaelwilliams41215

      An old saying and still often used .

      Is it True or False ?????

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      MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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        @michaelwilliams41215
        #111337
        Chris Trice
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          @christrice43267

          Definitely. We learn by doing.

          #111338
          roy entwistle
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            @royentwistle24699

            Theory is when you know how it works but it doesn't

            Practice is when it works but you don't know why

            Roy

            #111342
            _Paul_
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              @_paul_

              Good words, seemingly used less & less these days.

              "Tried & Tested" more good words.

              #111346
              Ian S C
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                @iansc

                On another forum. I seem forever asking others ifthe have put there ideas into practice, being me, its hit air engines, and some ideas are a bit way out, most don't say one way or another, so I suggest they build a simple, proven design, get that working, then think about designing your own. Ian S C

                #111352
                Chris Trice
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                  @christrice43267

                  Theory is important. It tells us what we're aiming at but it remains theory until it's applied and proven to be valid.

                   

                  Perhaps I should change that statement to we validate or prove the theory by doing.

                   

                  Edited By Chris Trice on 08/02/2013 10:45:51

                  #111353
                  Brian Wood
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                    @brianwood45127

                    I think Chris and Graham sum it all up properly. Another good reason for doing things that way is to prove a point or principle to others who don''t or can't grasp the concept and need to be won over.

                    Brian

                    #111354
                    NJH
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                      @njh

                      Michael – you are being provocative! This is one of those sayings that sound good but, in fact, are meaningless. As an example the builder needs the architect (and the architect needs the builder) If you have any doubts about this watch Grand Designs and see the disasters that are, I suspect, "rescued" by the program makers…… and would you want to fly in an airliner built by skilled craftmen who had no knowledge of the necessary design parameters? Equally would you like to fly in a plane built by an experienced designer with little practical knowledge of construction.

                      The truth is, as Graham says, the theory backs up the practice and vice versa – both are important for a successful outcome. That both areas are not rewarded equally in industry is another matter.

                      Back in the workshop thinking (theorising?) about how things might be achieved is an enjoyable part of the process and might well save time ( and a bob or two!). It certainly gives me a kick when, having puzzled over how I might carry out some task it all works out well.

                      ( Don't ask about the times when it doesn't!)

                      Cheers

                      Norman

                      Edited By NJH on 08/02/2013 11:16:08

                      #111355
                      Anonymous

                        False – Andrew

                        #111367
                        Geoff Theasby
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                          @geofftheasby

                          It's the difference between radio amateurs and CB radio. CBers buy a radio, plug it in, and it works. Radio amateurs can build it themselves, can mend it when it goes wrong and know how it works.

                          Regards

                          Geoff

                          #111368
                          Bob Perkins
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                            @bobperkins67044

                            It's a bit wobbly up here on the fence… True and false.

                            I've had a few disasters with silver soldering and screw cutting which I put down to being at the bottom of the learning curve. This has put me off attempting several projects. I bought and read a couple of workshop guides on the topics which soon highlighed the error of my ways (therory). I applied this with some simple test pieces and tooling, and am really pleased with the progress of my current project whih has employed both techinques (practice). The two complement each other in my veiw.

                            Bob P.

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                            #111369
                            Bazyle
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                              @bazyle

                              The bumblebee approach to flight. cheeky

                              #111375
                              jason udall
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                                @jasonudall57142

                                titanic designed and built by experts..( and some say ruined by accountants)..

                                the Ark.. built by an ameture ( home built )

                                My chanlenge to the aphorism would be what exactly is the ratio?.. abd how does it relate to "measure twice cut once" ?

                                #111381
                                NJH
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                                  @njh

                                  Jason

                                  I don't think you can cite the case of the Titanic – surely that was the fault of the driver! wink

                                  Norman

                                  #111389
                                  Michael Horner
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                                    @michaelhorner54327

                                    "Jason

                                    I don't think you can cite the case of the Titanic – surely that was the fault of the driver! wink"

                                    Wasn't the theory it was unsinkerble! Captain / iceberg proved them wrongfrown

                                    Cheers Mike.

                                    #111395
                                    john fletcher 1
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                                      @johnfletcher1

                                      Regarding Amateur radio enthusiasts and CB, its also plug and play for most and has been for at least 25/30 years, very few construct anything at all. It would be difficult to locate radio faults without a lot of electrical/electronic theory and a god understanding of how a raido works and so it is when working out gear ratios, dividing etc. In UK we ridcule theory much to our national disadvantage, just look at the so called third world ,Korea, China,India and how they are educating their children and the product they have invented and produce. Ever bought a mobile phone and have looked where it was made.

                                      #111396
                                      Ady1
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                                        @ady1

                                        Wasn't the theory it was unsinkerble! Captain / iceberg proved them wrongfrown

                                        Cheers Mike.

                                        ——

                                        I used to be a merchant navy navigator years ago

                                        The watch officer bottled it, he should have rammed the iceberg head on

                                        He's out of a job and the front end is caved in… but she stays afloat

                                        Titanic gutted herself when he tried to dodge the berg and the rest is as they say, history

                                        #111404
                                        Cornish Jack
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                                          @cornishjack

                                          In the aeronautical world, undoubtedly true.

                                          Just finished reading two books "The Quick and the Dead" – Bill Waterton's account of high speed flight and as Gloster's Test Pilot and "Winkle" Brown's extraordinary story of his mind-boggling range of aircraft – fixed and fling wing – flown. Waterton had a distinctly jaundiced view of the designers (or their reluctance to heed PRACTICAL advice). Winkle, on the other hand, just leapt aboard and got on with it – and, on occasion, nearly didn't stay intact.

                                          Fascinating reads, if you're into that sort of thing

                                          Rgds

                                          Bill

                                          #111418
                                          Chris Trice
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                                            @christrice43267

                                            Current research suggests that the hull of the Titanic wasn't torn open but the joints between the hull plates failed due to inferior rivets. This is backed up crew testimony who were inside the hull at the time of the impact and video footage of the wreck which matches the testimony.

                                            #111423
                                            jason udall
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                                              @jasonudall57142
                                              Posted by Chris Trice on 08/02/2013 22:51:08:

                                              Current research suggests that the hull of the Titanic wasn't torn open but the joints between the hull plates failed due to inferior rivets. This is backed up crew testimony who were inside the hull at the time of the impact and video footage of the wreck which matches the testimony.

                                              Hence my" (ruined by accountants)"…..
                                              when all said and done the Titanic took a relatively long time to sink and with more ,or better use of the , life boats many less lives would have been lost..

                                              Btw who knows what part "clockwork" played in the tradedy?……..

                                              hint: not aboard the titanic.

                                              #111426
                                              Ady1
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                                                @ady1

                                                In the aeronautical world, undoubtedly true.

                                                Just finished reading two books "The Quick and the Dead" – Bill Waterton's account of high speed flight and as Gloster's Test Pilot and "Winkle" Brown's extraordinary story of his mind-boggling range of aircraft etc

                                                ——-

                                                If you're into amazing pilot books I would recommend this one

                                                2500 combat missions

                                                Most of us haven't heard of him because the Jerries lost the war

                                                He did 17 in one day at one point

                                                #111427
                                                Geoff Theasby
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                                                  @geofftheasby

                                                  Its true that most radio amateurs buy their equipment these days, and that a modern transceiver is almost impossible to repair in the home workshop, but relatively simple equipment can still be made, especially receivers, which have a good performance without being too complex, and give good entertainment as well. The point is that CBers don't understand what is going on, and radio amateurs do. A CB radio is a 'black box' whereas a home-built radio is understood on every level from component to aerial and how it is used.

                                                  Regards

                                                  Geoff

                                                  #111429
                                                  Greg Ross
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                                                    @gregross50839

                                                    I think it is unwise to separate theory from practice. Looking back over the theory I had to learn in my fitting and machining trade and toolmaking training, the so called theory was practice written down for the benefit of someone else who had to do the same task at some later stage. Theory saves having to learn everything from scratch. Theory is based on what actually works.

                                                    #111435
                                                    Ian S C
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                                                      @iansc

                                                      Geoff, maybe in the UK, but here I used to dabble in CB 26Mhz in NZ, and there was quirte a bit of actual work done, modifing our sets, I will admit that the equipment has changed some what since the 1970s. Also into SW listening with an Icom R 71E. I'v up graded the filters, and fitted the FM modual to the Icom. My interest in the theory, and practice was/ is with aerials/ antenna. Ian S C

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