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    John Rudd
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      #239480
      John Rudd
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        @johnrudd16576

         

        I am close to completing a tool grinding station based on Harold Hall's rest.

        I have my double ended grinder mounted along with the tool rest.

        I have an issue with the wheels that I bought in as much as how to dress them so they run true and balanced.

        I dont feel safe mounting the wheel on the grinder to dress with a diamond, so what are my options on doing this safely?

        I had thought of making a mandrel and mounting them in the lathe and truing them that way ( with the bedways protected!! ) not sure if that is a good idea?

        So what do my learned colleagues recommend?

        Edited By John Rudd on 20/05/2016 16:02:51

        #239484
        John Haine
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          @johnhaine32865

          They are intended to be dressed in-situ on the grinder, which should make sure they are true to the spindle. As long as the guards are fitted and you take it easy there shouldn't be a problem. Keep a negative rake between the dresser and the wheel. If you can mount the hose of your shop vac where the grit goes to help avoid it spreading over the workshop.

          #239485
          Brian Wood
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            @brianwood45127

            John,

            It is usual to true the wheel on the grinder itself and for small wheels that will probably take care on the balance at the same time.

            Mounting it up in other ways will only lead to having to dress the wheel before use on the grinder anyway as the mounting will be sufficiently different to require that.

            Regards Brian

            #239487
            John Rudd
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              @johnrudd16576

              Gents thanks for the advice.

              I ought to say that the wheels are of the dished variety,

              like this one…http://www.rdgtools.co.uk/acatalog/100mm-Pink-Grit-Cup-Grinding-Wheel-806.html

              does that make a difference to how they should be dressed?

              So, do I dress the outside as well as the face ?

              Edited By John Rudd on 20/05/2016 17:00:25

              #239493
              Brian Wood
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                @brianwood45127

                John Rudd,

                With a wheel like that you would dress the front face to an angle of about 5 degrees so that you get a sharp corner with the outer rim of the wheel. As grinding proceeds, you may have to repeat the dressing to restore the edge. Do make sure you clamp the wheel between protective paper washers so that the clamp discs do not bear directly on the wheel material.

                There is no need for huge clamping forces either, just a gentle nip, enough to prevent rotation on the location register.

                Regards Brian

                #239513
                Neil Wyatt
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                  @neilwyatt

                  You should only take a very light skim with each pass.

                  I found this guide to grinding wheel use.

                  http://www.toolingu.com/images/finished_pdf_files/250230.pdf

                  #239556
                  Bernard Wright
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                    @bernardwright25932

                    Thanks for the PDF link Neil.

                    Bernard.

                    #239592
                    Ajohnw
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                      @ajohnw51620

                      I've been disgusted with the wheels I have bought of late. Some of that might be down to the grinders they have been on but the wheels definitely don't come running anything like true. I have a grinder in the garage that I use if I want to make a new tool or do a lot of grinding on something. It's been in there for something like 20 years. Make Nutool. The wheels hardly needed any touching up at all new and the grinder has never been bolted down. It doesn't need it and stays dead still.

                      Anyway on that grinder I use a hammer headed dresser lightly on it when it needs it which isn't very often. I use that style because they are easy to use, They just need holding square to the wheel surface. This dresser has proved to be pretty useless for truing up wheels as they tend to bounce off the wheel. They also need a fair amount of pressure applied which means they tend to follow the shape of the wheel rather than correct it, A single point tool is a lot better but take too much off and the diamond will probably fly off. Neil's pdf suggests suitable amounts,

                      John

                      Edited By Ajohnw on 21/05/2016 10:40:31

                      #239651
                      John Fielding
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                        @johnfielding34086

                        Here is a tip for dressing grinding wheels a wood turning friend put me onto.

                        Buy a few cheap diamond coated blades for angle grinders. The sort used for cutting concrete. My local tool warehouse has packs of three for about R20, that's about One quid in the old money. Hold the disk gently against the grindstone and move it side to side. You will be amazed how it smooths the surface. When that bit of the diamond wheel gets worn simply rotate it a few degrees to expose more fresh diamonds. When it is completely depleted throw it away and use a new one. My last pack of disks has lasted two years!

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