Can you ID this vintage lathe?

Can you ID this vintage lathe?

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    AJAX
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      Apologies for the poor quality images. Can anyone identify this lathe? It looks a bit Britannia-esque and I have trawled the usual websites with no success. I'm told it has a throw of about 14".

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      AJAX
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        @ajax
        #522163
        Ady1
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          @ady1

          A curious machine, big, but not heavy at the headstock end, an unusual box bed design and a powered cross slide absolutely brimming with t-nut slots

          #522180
          Keith Long
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            @keithlong89920

            It looks very reminiscent of a Drummond 5 inch, particularly the heavily T slotted cross-slide, see http://www.lathes.co.uk/drummond5inchphotoessay

            #522181
            Rob McSweeney
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              @robmcsweeney81205

              Iooks like a 5" Drummond to me.

              Plenty of info on http://www.lathes.co, plus a group on facebook and what used to be a yahoo group which has now migrated elsewhere.

              #522197
              Brian H
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                @brianh50089

                The Yahoo group is now on:

                **LINK**

                Brian

                #522246
                AJAX
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                  @ajax
                  Posted by Ady1 on 24/01/2021 00:46:20:

                  A curious machine, big, but not heavy at the headstock end, an unusual box bed design and a powered cross slide absolutely brimming with t-nut slots

                  I agree, the bed design is unusual and not like anything else I can find. The cross slide looks like a boring table.

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                  AJAX
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                    @ajax
                    Posted by Rob McSweeney on 24/01/2021 09:07:29:

                    Iooks like a 5" Drummond to me.

                    Plenty of info on http://www.lathes.co, plus a group on facebook and what used to be a yahoo group which has now migrated elsewhere.

                    Thanks

                    #522255
                    Lee Rogers
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                      @leerogers95060

                      Yes Drummond . Note the double bed.

                      #522266
                      SillyOldDuffer
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                        Posted by AJAX on 24/01/2021 12:04:38:

                        Posted by Ady1 on 24/01/2021 00:46:20:

                        A curious machine, big, but not heavy at the headstock end, an unusual box bed design and a powered cross slide absolutely brimming with t-nut slots

                        I agree, the bed design is unusual and not like anything else I can find. The cross slide looks like a boring table.

                        I wonder if dating back to 1912 explains the double bed? It's about the time HSS forced lathe design to change. Before HSS lathe knives were made of ordinary Carbon Tool steel. Works well provided the temperature is kept very low, which is achieved by flood cooling or light cuts only.

                        Victorian lathes are quite spindly compared with 20th century lathes. Most small machines were built to take light cuts only and treadle powered.

                        I suggest the double bed is an early attempt to beef-up an existing lay-out to use HSS, which cuts about 5 times faster than carbon tool steel and puts much more stress on the machine. Later, the complicated double bed was discarded because it's cheaper to make a stubby conventional bed, reinforce it internally, and stiffen the legs.

                        Bed design is 'quite interesting'. Gaps, flat tops, prismatic forms, and two or four legged ways, are all either rubbish or wonderful depending on who is asked. Been lots of experimentation over the years.

                        I've seen claims carbon tool-steel is better for fine work than HSS because it takes a sharper edge. Not sure it's true, though it might be. I can imagine time-served Victorian turners rejecting HSS as newfangled rubbish!

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                        Dave

                        #522267
                        Ady1
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                          It kinda said heavy duty precision woodwork to me

                          From the old days, grand pianos, mosquito aircraft, that kind of thing

                          But probby lighter metalwork, as mentioned previously

                          Edited By Ady1 on 24/01/2021 14:06:53

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