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  • #345549
    Tractor man
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      @tractorman

      Gents and Ladies,

      yet another item that bamboozled me until I cracked its secret.

      Quite an interesting item for those who have never seen one, i.e. me before I bought this.

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      #13172
      Tractor man
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        @tractorman
        #345552
        Tractor man
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          @tractorman

          In the central image the items inside the centre hole are hardened steel rollers that float freely. No manner of adjustment.

          #345553
          Mike E.
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            @mikee-85511

            Looks similar to a floating reamer holder for chambering rifle barrels.

            #345554
            Rainbows
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              @rainbows

              Was going to say thread roller, might be time to replace those screws though

              #345558
              mechman48
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                @mechman48

                Tapping box… as the arbour rotates clockwise the rollers ? inside rotate / cam effect, to grip the tap & release when rotated anti clockwise….? sized for 4.5 to 8 mm taps

                ​George.

                #345559
                Rik Shaw
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                  @rikshaw

                  Not seen one before but I'd guess it to be either an "external" tailstock "centre" or a planisher.

                  Rik

                  #345563
                  Speedy Builder5
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                    @speedybuilder5

                    Still in business

                    **LINK**

                    #345580
                    Neil Wyatt
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                      @neilwyatt

                      A roller clutch chuck to hold rod for threading?

                      #345598
                      Tim Stevens
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                        @timstevens64731

                        Or further to Neil's suggestion, an 'automatic' self tightening drilling chuck?

                        Tim

                        #345606
                        David Standing 1
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                          @davidstanding1

                          It's a quick action drill chuck.

                          #345669
                          Martin Connelly
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                            @martinconnelly55370

                            Is it a stud driver? You can buy them with three rollers that are in wedge shaped slots so that they tighten on the stud as the stud is being driven.

                            Martin C

                            #345671
                            Neil Wyatt
                            Moderator
                              @neilwyatt

                              yes, I was pretty much right but over-thought it, it's just a quick drill chuck.

                              #345692
                              Tractor man
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                                @tractorman

                                Success, yes its a quick drill chuck.

                                Tapping would be a problem as you would not be able to withdraw the tap.

                                It works very much like a stud removal tool but is far too well made for that job.

                                Once in the quill drills can be fitted and removed without stopping the spindle and no pesky chuck key to find in the swarf!

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                                well done Neil, Tim and David for identifying it.

                                #345694
                                David Standing 1
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                                  @davidstanding1

                                  I cheated on my ID, there's one for sale on eBay.de devil

                                  #345752
                                  Bazyle
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                                    @bazyle

                                    Not sure about this 'not stopping the drill' aspect. I have a keyless chuck that you push the body one way to open and the other to close but it has to be spinning to work. That means you have to hold the drill to do up and it will suddenly snatch and spin. Seems a daft idea.

                                    #345787
                                    Tractor man
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                                      @tractorman

                                      Bazyle, apparently these chucks were designed for production where stopping and starting the spindle wasted time, costing money.
                                      If you’re constantly changing drills on a job it can come in handy. Plus the self tightening feature of the chuck in my original post is good for people with poor grip strength, I sometimes struggle with standard keyless chucks.

                                      #345825
                                      Bazyle
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                                        @bazyle

                                        yes I appreciate my chuck was intended for production, and being 1MT only small drills however it's the bit about holding the drill bit in your hand that I find problematic. If you did a change every minute in a working day on the line what would happen to your fingers.

                                        #345869
                                        Tractor man
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                                          @tractorman

                                          Bazyle I didn’t mean to teach you to suck eggs so I’m sorry old you thought I was.
                                          I think you have a wahlstrom type chuck? A knurled collar and a plane tapered nose looking like a keyed chuck but without a gear ring.
                                          I have one similar and it is quite a knack to change bits I admit, but I guess that workers would have gotten on with the job prior to elf and safety.
                                          I hold the shank of the drill rather than the flutes and seem to be ok changing at 1300 RPM.
                                          But obviously going from a 1/64 drill to 3/8 would need a speed change anyway.
                                          Maybe I will fit it in my jig borer with variable speed pulleys.

                                          #345888
                                          jimmy b
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                                            @jimmyb

                                            How exactly does it work? I'm struggling with the whole idea!

                                            Jim

                                            #345906
                                            Tractor man
                                            Participant
                                              @tractorman

                                              Jimmy,
                                              The chuck works by allowing the bit to.be removed and refuted while the spindle is turning.
                                              Holding the knurled collar and pulling down releases the drill, holding the nose of the chuck closes it on the bit.
                                              There is a video on YouTube if you look for quick release drill chucks.
                                              One book I use advises their use is good on a mill where the spindle takes time to slow to a stop.
                                              The chuck I posted about initially works by a set of cam operated rollers. Holding the collar while it is running opens the rollers and releasing it snaps them back onto the drill.
                                              Both types are good if your changing bits often.

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