Unrecognized gauge marked “PERLES”

Unrecognized gauge marked “PERLES”

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  • #295819
    ega
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      @ega

      Does anyone recognize this?

      dscn1339.jpg

      It was given me by a (now deceased) friend with an interest in clocks. As an indication of size beyond the rule, the no 3 hole is about 0.040".

      I don't think it is a gauge for measuring pearls!

      #18497
      ega
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        @ega

        Possibly a watch or clockmaker’s tool

        #295856
        Stuart Bridger
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          @stuartbridger82290

          Hmm, goes against the usual convention of larger numbers representing smaller diameters. No ides

          #295863
          V8Eng
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            @v8eng

            Looks a bit like a Wire Drawing Plate to me, used for pulling annealed wire through to gradually reduce its diameter.

            Unfotunately I cannot remember how the hole numbering system works on those (age thing).

            P.S. I think there is a power tool manufacturer called Perles.

            Edited By V8Eng on 01/05/2017 18:37:10

            #295866
            Brian H
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              @brianh50089

              Looks like a gauge for measuring wire size using something like BWG (Birmingham Wire Gauge)

              #295867
              Martin Connelly
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                @martinconnelly55370

                Bead, pearl,  stone gauge.

                **LINK**

                Martin C

                Edited By Martin Connelly on 01/05/2017 18:35:06

                #295877
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133
                  Posted by ega on 01/05/2017 14:23:22:

                  I don't think it is a gauge for measuring pearls!

                  .

                  But of course, it is

                  [ well done, Martin C ]

                  MichaelG.

                  #295883
                  Neil Wyatt
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                    @neilwyatt

                    Wire drawing numbers always get bigger as the holes get smaller, because they are a count of how many times the wire has been through the die.

                    Neil

                    #295887
                    John Flack
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                      @johnflack59079

                      Perles being French for pearls may confirm info above 🤔🤔

                      #295888
                      Brian H
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                        @brianh50089
                        Posted by Neil Wyatt on 01/05/2017 19:42:25:

                        Wire drawing numbers always get bigger as the holes get smaller, because they are a count of how many times the wire has been through the die.

                        Neil

                        Except of course, Whitworths Wire Gauge which goes from 1 (meaning 1 thou) up to 500 (meaning 500 thou or half an inch)

                        Brian

                        #295891
                        richardandtracy
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                          @richardandtracy

                          Why couldn't they just specify the diameter in objective units?

                          Makes life so much easier.

                          Regards

                          Richard

                          #295899
                          Brian G
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                            @briang
                            Posted by richardandtracy on 01/05/2017 20:18:48:

                            Why couldn't they just specify the diameter in objective units?

                            Makes life so much easier.

                            Regards

                            Richard

                            Because the last thing the jewellery trade want is objective buyers?

                            Brian

                            #295960
                            ega
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                              @ega

                              Pearls,etc it is!

                              Thanks to those who identified my gauge; interesting that beads, pearls and stones (diamonds) are apparently measured in the same way and difficult to see what use or ornament a no 1 pearl would be.

                              John Flack: I was aware of the French word which, on checking, I see also means bead and howler.

                              The absence of a maker's name suggests that it may be shop-made.

                              #295978
                              V8Eng
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                                @v8eng
                                Posted by Neil Wyatt on 01/05/2017 19:42:25:

                                Wire drawing numbers always get bigger as the holes get smaller, because they are a count of how many times the wire has been through the die.

                                Neil

                                Thanks Neil.

                                I have a couple of small size plates for circular wire and one for square, for various reasons accesss is not posssible at present and I could not remember the numbering system.

                                Edited By V8Eng on 02/05/2017 09:59:25

                                Edited By V8Eng on 02/05/2017 10:00:19

                                #295983
                                Martin Connelly
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                                  @martinconnelly55370

                                  EGA, seed pearls in jewelry are going to be about size 1. If you want even sizes then a gauge is needed.

                                  **LINK**

                                  Martin C

                                  #296045
                                  ega
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                                    @ega

                                    Martin Connelly:

                                    Thanks. I see that according to winterson.co.uk:

                                    "The famous Baroda Pearl Carpet, sold at auction by Sotheby's in 2009 for $5.5m, was covered with around 1.4 million seed pearls, all drilled by hand and sewn decoratively onto the fabric."

                                    #296082
                                    Neil Wyatt
                                    Moderator
                                      @neilwyatt

                                      Those holes are almost big enough to measure the pearls of wisdom in this forum

                                      Neil

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