Unknown Make and Model of old lathe

[Stephen BarronParticipant @stephenbarron14973]

I’m looking to identify the make and model of this lathe

[Stephen BarronParticipant @stephenbarron14973]

I'm looking to identify the make and model so i can eventually find a manual and restore this lovely lathe.

The make and model may be painted over, i'm not sure, i haven't restored anything this old before.

I have all the accessories on a box and none of them contain any information.

I have pictures but i'm finding it difficult to upload.

[Stephen BarronParticipant @stephenbarron14973]

Edited By JasonB on 10/06/2021 18:13:09

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

A Moveable headstock??

Could be a wood lathe…

with backgear…?

The headstock must fit onto different beds for doing different work?

intruiging

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

I don't think the headstock is intended to be moved, it just sits clamped to the unusual bed vee ways. The saddle is very narrow and it looks like the apron can pass underneath the headstock slightly. The leadscrew is almost out of sight behind and beneath the rack.

Edited By old mart on 10/06/2021 20:31:31

[David BlightParticipant @davidblight39097]

Stephen, looks almost identical to one I have.

Search for Barnes N0. 13

David

[David BlightParticipant @davidblight39097]

Correction, it's a Barnes, but not a no.13. it has no variable cross feed mechanism.

David

[Stephen BarronParticipant @stephenbarron14973]

Thanks David, so the make is Barnes thats great, at least i can narrow it down to that. I'll start looking at lathe manuals. Do you guys use any particular website for manuals?

[Brian HParticipant @brianh50089]

Stephen, have a look at :

**LINK**

Brian

[Stephen BarronParticipant @stephenbarron14973]

Cheers Brian.

[Dave HalfordParticipant @davehalford22513]

I would worry about the grease nipples. My T&LM of the same vintage is oiled.

Wonder if that came over with the Dough Boys for the Great War.

[Stephen BarronParticipant @stephenbarron14973]

Thanks all,

I made contact with Tony over in lathes.co.uk and this was his response:

Yes, you've identified it correctly, it's an American Barnes of the "twin-leadscrew" type. A well-made lathe that used good-quality materials in its construction.

My article about them here: **LINK**

Barnes were once a very popular make of inexpensive lathe and became almost the "backbone machine" of rural American repair shops from the late 1800s to the 1930s. Today many are still in daily use in the USA – and not unknown in the UK to where numbers were exported (less identifying badges) from 1900 to the 1930s. None of these lathes have any technical merit or interesting or unusual design features – and hence sell for only a modest sum.

Barnes were a very conservative company who changed their lathes only very slowly over many years and, although they never published an "Instruction Manual" in the modern sense of the word, their sales literature was very interesting and I have two example below that you will find of interest:

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[Stephen BarronParticipant @stephenbarron14973]

This was my first time posting anything on this site, so i'm delighted to have it responded to so quickly. Thank you all!

[Brian HParticipant @brianh50089]

I'm glad that Tony at Lathes was able to help and hope you can get it working again without too much trouble, it should make a very useful piece of workshop equipment.

Brian

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