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    Lee Matthews
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      @leematthews87535
      #204119
      Lee Matthews
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        @leematthews87535

        hello everyone im new here, i wish to start in model engineering but am not from an engineering background, i am reasonably good with mechanics, and have had an obsession with steam locomotives since childhood, however i dont know anything about lathes and my experience has been limited to building gauge 1 kits, my question is how hard would it be to find someone who might let me help out on a reguler basis in their work shop so i could learn how to do things, i am nearly 40 now so do you think i might be taking it up too late in life, i presume that most people in this game have been doing it from school leaving age?

        #204124
        David Clark 13
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          @davidclark13

          Hi Lee

          you are not to old. Many people start when they retire. Most people don't have the money for tools until the kids grow up. Why don't you start by scratch building something for gauge 1? A locomotive tender would make a good start.

          #204125
          Paul Lousick
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            @paullousick59116

            Hi Lee,

            Welcome to the group. I would suggest that you join a club in your area that has an interest in model engineering or model locomotives. Club members are always willing to advise you of where to start. I live in Sydney, Australia but I am.sure that there should be one in your area. Lots of good information on the internet and Youtube.

            Paul.

            #204128
            Neil Wyatt
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              @neilwyatt

              Welcome Lee,

              I started at 37, which is about half the average age

              See if you can find a club – what area are you in?

              Neil

              #204132
              Lee Matthews
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                @leematthews87535

                to keep a long story short mr wyatt, i have just restored a narrow boat to live on so i can keep living costs to a minimum and be able to afford to persue my passion which is steam locomotives, so i am planning to move about until i find somewhere that i like,what i want to do is rent a small lock up so i can eventualy start getting some machinery and tools, and i will be doing some volunteer work with a heritage railway, hopefuly i can find one with a carriage works as i can weld. i will see if i can find a club as you have suggested, i have come to the stage in life where i would like to start from scratch and learn something new, sort of like starting as an apprentice and going back 25 years, if you know what i mean, i only wish i had done an engineering apprentiship when i left school but life took me in a different direction.

                #204135
                Nicholas Farr
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                  @nicholasfarr14254

                  Hi Lee, you say you are reasonably good with mechanics, so I would think that you should have no problem learning to use a lathe ect. and it is never to late to pick up model engineering.

                  Regards Nick.

                  #204137
                  Lee Matthews
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                    @leematthews87535

                    thank you all i feel a bit reasured now, i was worried after talking to a civil engineer on the blubell railway who said i probably would struggle and to stick with kits! as i said i want to join a club so i can learn to understand things like reading drawings properly and such like.

                    #204139
                    Neil Wyatt
                    Moderator
                      @neilwyatt

                      You could do worse than but a few volumes of Model Engineer back issues from across the years.

                      Neil

                      #204141
                      Lee Matthews
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                        @leematthews87535

                        thank you again i will try that as well

                        #204142
                        Bazyle
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                          @bazyle

                          A lot of the build of a loco does not involve a lathe at all. You can make a start with hand tools and a vice.
                          If you paddle round the Grand Union you can pause near St Albans one Thursday and go to the evening class at Marlborough School to turn some wheels. If you give the horse a carrot you might be able to get up here in time for the St Albans and District Model Engineering Society exhibition on the last weekend of September.

                          #204144
                          Lee Matthews
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                            @leematthews87535

                            noted and thanks that might just be the icebreaker im looking for, i will certainly come and have a look

                            #204153
                            mechman48
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                              @mechman48

                              Welcome Lee

                              You are never too old to learn; life is a learning curve from the day we are born 'tll the day we go to the great workshop in the sky, and its always accompanied with 'well, I didn't know that… but now I do', plus another golden oldie, 'why didn't I think of that…

                              There is a fountain of knowledge on this site from all the members & it's freely given, even for those that have been in the eng. business all their working lives , so if you want to find out anything… don't be afraid, just ask.

                              George

                              #204155
                              Lee Matthews
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                                @leematthews87535

                                has anyone got reccomendations for any particular club, or is that a howlong is a piece of string question?

                                #204162
                                Bazyle
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                                  @bazyle

                                  Box Hill club in Melbourne is very good surprise as is Tullamarine..

                                  But if you mean nearby then just put the name of the nearest towns + model engineer club in a search engine and mostly it will come up with a few.

                                  #204164
                                  Lee Matthews
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                                    @leematthews87535

                                    dont even joke mate you might just get a knock on the door one day followed by a barrage of questions about how too……………..!!!!!!

                                    #204171
                                    Lee Matthews
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                                      @leematthews87535

                                      just one more quick question and ill leave you all in peace, do you think when i join a club it might be worth buying a half finished steam loco instead of a scratch build? or would that open a host of more complex problems there seems to be quite a few on ebay, i would like to have your opinions, rather than making a fool of myself in public by asking stupid questions at a club evening?

                                      #204172
                                      Neil Wyatt
                                      Moderator
                                        @neilwyatt

                                        That's a way many people have started, especially if they can get a rolling chassis with a boiler.

                                        Neil

                                        #204174
                                        Lee Matthews
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                                          @leematthews87535

                                          yes im looking at a couple on e bay now, ill do some homework, then aproach a club and ask for some advice before parting with cash

                                          #204221
                                          Ian S C
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                                            @iansc

                                            Lee, welcome from NZ.

                                            It would be handy to put up a little info about yourself, then we don't have to ask where you are, although I suppose your location may change from time to time.

                                            Ian S C

                                            Edited By Ian S C on 14/09/2015 12:44:34

                                            #204222
                                            Ian S C
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                                              @iansc

                                              Done it again

                                              Edited By Ian S C on 14/09/2015 12:42:26

                                              #204241
                                              Lee Matthews
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                                                @leematthews87535

                                                sorry i didnt mean to be vauge, i should have made it clearer, my plan as i have very nearly finished restoring my narrowboat is to have a good look around and to settle in an area where i can find a suitable club, that caters for beginers so i can start what will be a very steep learning curve when i choose to start a project, as i said i am interested in building a steam locomotive, probably from a half finished project to start with, i am and always have been very interestes in 2.5 inch gauge locomotives and have a thing for lbscr and lner locos, the most difficult part is i have no engineering backround , and as i have already said i have only built gauge 1 kits, so i will need alot of teaching to start with, i plan to do some work if i can find a heritage railway that will have me as welll.

                                                #204243
                                                Lee Matthews
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                                                  @leematthews87535

                                                  sorry i didnt mean to be vauge, i should have made it clearer, my plan as i have very nearly finished restoring my narrowboat is to have a good look around and to settle in an area where i can find a suitable club, that caters for beginers so i can start what will be a very steep learning curve when i choose to start a project, as i said i am interested in building a steam locomotive, probably from a half finished project to start with, i am and always have been very interestes in 2.5 inch gauge locomotives and have a thing for lbscr and lner locos, the most difficult part is i have no engineering backround , and as i have already said i have only built gauge 1 kits, so i will need alot of teaching to start with, i plan to do some work if i can find a heritage railway that will have me as welll.

                                                  #204247
                                                  David Clark 13
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                                                    @davidclark13

                                                    I would suggest Aylesbury vale club which is based at quanton in Buckinghamshire. Lots of canals in that area as well. Nice place to live if you don't have to rent or buy a house.

                                                    #204251
                                                    Lee Matthews
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                                                      @leematthews87535

                                                      now that sounds like my cup of tea!! i will have a look now for their website, and send them an e mail, to find out more, as i said the money i can save as you quite rightly point out about house prices i plan to spend on steam locos! what i am planning to do is to rent a small lockup for when i start to get some tooling, however if i can find the right club that has got a small premises i was going to suggest, when i buy some larger tools i could keep it with them for everybody to use, this might be of benefit to a club and i would be able to get some guidence as well.

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