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    ChrisH
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      @chrish
      Was thinking earlier that it would be useful to have a tachometer giving me a readout of the actual headstock (chuck) speed, as opposed to believing what the adjusting handle of the stepless drive pullys was indicating would likely be the speed, all things being hunky dory. I would need to have some sort of pick up (mechanical or more probable electrical) on the headstock output shaft, linked to a digital or analogue readout in some way. I could use my handheld techo, but a permanently fixed one would be more useful as it would be, well, permanently displaying the info. OK, it’s ‘nice-to-have’, not ‘need-to-have’, but would be useful all the same.
       
      And that is as far as I have got.
       
      Not got far researching this on the ‘net’, totally devoid of ideas from there.
       
      Anyone got any bright idea/s to point me in a useful direction?
       
      ChrisH 

      Edited By ChrisH on 22/05/2011 21:11:06

      #5521
      ChrisH
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        @chrish
        #69039
        Steve Garnett
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          @stevegarnett62550

          We had a huge great thread about this ages ago – you might well get some useful ideas from it. It’s here.

          #69040
          John Coates
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            @johncoates48577

            Sigma (or other make) bicycle speedometer. Magnet on chuck or mandrel or backplate and small bracket for the magnetic pickup . Isn’t there something on this in next month’s MEW?

            #69041
            The Merry Miller
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              @themerrymiller

              Chris, you may not be aware that in next month’s issue of MEW (no.178) there will be an article on building a rev. counter using a bicycle computer, something I’m looking forward to making.

              #69044
              Steve Withnell
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                @stevewithnell34426
                Not sure it’s worth the effort to be honest. I’ve a variable speed lathe so built a tacho onto the spindle. Never completed the display, bought an optical tacho off eBay cheap as chips and calibrated the dial with a permanent marker, job done. You really don’t need to know the spindle speed to +/- 10 rpm and probably not even +/- 50rpm. (At 50rpm you can count the revs!)
                 
                 
                 
                My tuppence worth.
                 
                Steve
                #69049
                Dennis
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                  @dennis66942
                  hi Chris I made a rev counter four years ago out the £5 bicycle computer its still works today,look forward to see it in MEW next month . Dennis
                  #69050
                  mgj
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                    @mgj
                    Hardly worth the trouble to build anything special. A dab of white paint and hand held impulse/optical tacho and you have your answer. You don’t want to put any effort into it, because once you have a reading and mark as Steve has implied, you never need the tacho again. Not that one ever really needed it in the first place, because the tool is either cutting properly or its not, and it won’t take long to get oneself sorted.
                     
                    At the end of the day, does one actually need to know revs at all – I have a geared head on one lathe, and pulleys on the other, and I have no idea what each ratio provides, but I know what settings cut right at what diameters.
                     
                    But, if you really want to find out, they do them for testing the speed of electric motors. (and all sorts of other ranges) so Scrrewfix might well stock. The model aircraft ones with a digital readout (available from most model shops) are about £15 -£20, and they will give you a reading at 600 rpm on a 2 blade prob. 4 or 8 bits of reflective tape on your chuck and you are well in the range of one of those at lathe speeds.
                     
                    Calibrate against 50hz.
                     
                    But are you sure that it is time or money usefully spent?

                    Edited By mgj on 22/05/2011 22:27:50

                    #69053
                    Les Jones 1
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                      @lesjones1
                      Hi Chris,
                      The Design that Steve Garnett refers to was submitted to MEW about February 2010. As so much time has elapsed I do not think it will be published. If you are interested the design is on my website.
                       
                      Les.
                      #69056
                      harold
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                        @harold
                        Hi Les
                        I’m very surprised that evidently it’s not being published. The two that I have built have given impeccable service. It’s a lot less electonically complicated than many recently-published devices and the call for a workshop-friendly tach is a frequent one.
                         
                        Regards,
                         
                        John
                        #69067
                        David Clark 13
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                          @davidclark13
                          Hi There
                          I am going through all the old articles.
                          Occasionally some get overlooked.
                          The Tachometer one was due to email problems.
                          I have now found it, it was forwarded to myself and has not been sorted until I saw the post on here.
                          Some get published after two or more years although most are sooner than that.
                          I still have some passed on to me by Dave Fenner and the odd one submitted to Geoff Sheppard.
                          regards David
                           
                          #69085
                          ChrisH
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                            @chrish

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                            #69088
                            ChrisH
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                              @chrish
                              Thanks to all who replied, and thanks to Les for his link to his tacho design.
                               
                              I had not thought of using a bike speed computer – not thinking sideways enough – but now await next months MEW with added interest.
                               
                              I can of course use my hand-held tacho, but it seemed like a nice idea to not have to do this and still get the speed reading.
                               
                              Chris.

                              Edited By ChrisH on 23/05/2011 17:42:28

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