THE NUMBER 9 !

THE NUMBER 9 !

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  • #559647
    noel shelley
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      @noelshelley55608

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      Edited By noel shelley on 24/08/2021 13:20:34

      #3941
      noel shelley
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        @noelshelley55608
        #559651
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          Brilliant star

          MichaelG.

          #559668
          Nigel Graham 2
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            @nigelgraham2

            Hee-hee! I like it!

            I'm baffled by the 5 o'clock one though.

            How does the square-root of 9! = 6 as I read it; or come to that the square-root of 8! = 5?

            Nor does it work by the factorial of the square-root of nine.

            #559669
            duncan webster 1
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              @duncanwebster1

              (sqrt(9))! – 9/9

              3! – 1

              3*2*1 – 1 =5

              Does Bodmas cover factorials?

              Edited By duncan webster on 24/08/2021 15:14:08

              #559670
              Ramon Wilson
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                @ramonwilson3

                Ah! you'd need a calclator to turn that into real timelaugh

                Nice one Noel

                Tug

                #559671
                Nicholas Farr
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                  @nicholasfarr14254

                  Hi Noel, very good, however I've not had course to come across the type of equations for 5, 7 or 9, the 7 one taken the longest time for me to figure out on one of my fraction capable calculators.

                  Regards Nick.

                  #559672
                  SillyOldDuffer
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                    @sillyoldduffer

                    If you got 601.3952191045344 for 5O'Clock, join my club.

                    Also, am I right in saying that the digits of the hours expressed in seconds always add up to 9?

                    e.g.:

                    1AM = 3600s so 3+6+0+0 = 9

                    4AM = 14400 so 1+4+4+0+0 = 9

                    9AM = 32400s so 3+2+4+0+0 = 9

                    11AM = 39600s so 3+9+6+0+0 = 18 & 1+8 = 9

                    Bound to be useful for something. Is there a prize?

                    sad

                    Dave

                    #559675
                    Journeyman
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                      @journeyman

                      I agree, the 5 is a bit iffy, needs brackets as per Duncan's explanation. If you fancy the real thing for your workshop wall available at a nearby South American rain-forest for about 15quid.

                      John

                      #559683
                      Nigel Bennett
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                        @nigelbennett69913

                        I'm sure there must be a much simpler expression for the 9 o'clock position, but I can't imagine what…

                        #559688
                        Ady1
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                          @ady1

                          cool!

                          Engineers or mathematicians xmas pressie sorted too

                          #559696
                          Michael Gilligan
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                            @michaelgilligan61133
                            Posted by Journeyman on 24/08/2021 15:52:00:

                            I agree, the 5 is a bit iffy, needs brackets as per Duncan's explanation.

                            .

                            I suppose it’s fair … given that the ‘bang’ is outside the sqrt sign

                            MichaelG.

                            #559698
                            duncan webster 1
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                              @duncanwebster1
                              pressed the wrong button

                              Edited By duncan webster on 24/08/2021 19:51:55

                              #559706
                              Brian G
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                                @briang
                                Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 24/08/2021 15:40:42:

                                If you got 601.3952191045344 for 5O'Clock, join my club.

                                Also, am I right in saying that the digits of the hours expressed in seconds always add up to 9?

                                e.g.:

                                1AM = 3600s so 3+6+0+0 = 9

                                4AM = 14400 so 1+4+4+0+0 = 9

                                9AM = 32400s so 3+2+4+0+0 = 9

                                11AM = 39600s so 3+9+6+0+0 = 18 & 1+8 = 9

                                Bound to be useful for something. Is there a prize?

                                sad

                                Dave

                                Probably been won almost as soon as we started using base 10 with arabic/indian numerals Dave, as the sum of the digits of any multiple of 9 is always a multiple of 9, and 3600 = 400 x 9.

                                I just checked and the same thing seems to work in other bases such as Hex, so that the digits of multiples of F add up to multiples of F. I'm beginning to understand why I was put in the applied maths stream at school as this sort of thing just confuses me.

                                Brian G

                                Edited By Brian G on 24/08/2021 20:37:57

                                #559710
                                pgk pgk
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                                  @pgkpgk17461

                                  Trachtenberg speed system multiplying by 9
                                  Which looks clumsy in the example until the rules are second nature but the whole system was apparently able to teach kids to calculate a 15 digit number x a 15 digit number in under a minute?

                                  Link

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trachtenberg_system#Multiplying_by_9

                                  pgk

                                  #559715
                                  Nicholas Farr
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                                    @nicholasfarr14254
                                    Posted by Michael Gilligan on 24/08/2021 19:47:10:

                                    Posted by Journeyman on 24/08/2021 15:52:00:

                                    I agree, the 5 is a bit iffy, needs brackets as per Duncan's explanation.

                                    .

                                    I suppose it’s fair … given that the ‘bang’ is outside the sqrt sign

                                    MichaelG.

                                    Hi, this is how I did it on my calculator.

                                    img_20210824_203747.jpg

                                    This is the only way I could get it on my calculator with any brackets, any other combination of brackets gave a wrong answer or a system error.

                                    img_20210824_210224.jpg

                                    Regards Nick.

                                    Edited By Nicholas Farr on 24/08/2021 21:37:38

                                    #559717
                                    Nigel Graham 2
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                                      @nigelgraham2

                                      Thank you Duncan.

                                      I'm glad I was not the only one who'd not spotted the invisible brackets that make it work. 

                                      I've never seen a clock like that previously.

                                      Anti-clockwise clocks yes.

                                      A clock with its otherwise plain dial given coloured segments to show pub opening times, yes.

                                      A clock with fancy single-digit sums though…. No. I like it!

                                      Edited By Nigel Graham 2 on 24/08/2021 21:55:11

                                      #559721
                                      noel shelley
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                                        @noelshelley55608

                                        Gentlemen I'm glad it has generated some thought and comment, BUT I can claim no credit for it ! It was sent to me by an old school friend who paid less attention in maths than me, he also sent the WHAT IS IT I posted some weeks ago. I felt it was worth sharing. Ah well, Time Flies. Noel.

                                        #559727
                                        duncan webster 1
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                                          @duncanwebster1

                                          The 7 would be better as 9 – sqrt(9) + 9^0, which would be 9 – 3 + 1 = 7

                                          The symbol for 0.99999……… in my young date was a dot above the 9, not a line

                                          Anyone know where I can get one, apart from Journeyman's South American Rainforest, which I must admit I didn't get

                                          #559728
                                          Grindstone Cowboy
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                                            @grindstonecowboy

                                            Duncan – it's also a big river. I'm assuming we aren't allowed to mention the actual website?

                                            Rob

                                            #559729
                                            Anonymous
                                              Posted by duncan webster on 24/08/2021 23:45:05:

                                              The 7 would be better as 9 – sqrt(9) + 9^0, which would be 9 – 3 + 1 = 7

                                              But unfortunately introduces the numeral " 0 " ….

                                              #559731
                                              pgk pgk
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                                                @pgkpgk17461

                                                The search phrase "Math Clock buy uk" throws up multiple retailers and many more variations.

                                                pgk

                                                #559734
                                                Michael Gilligan
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                                                  @michaelgilligan61133
                                                  Posted by Peter Greene on 25/08/2021 01:50:58:

                                                  Posted by duncan webster on 24/08/2021 23:45:05:

                                                  The 7 would be better as 9 – sqrt(9) + 9^0, which would be 9 – 3 + 1 = 7

                                                  But unfortunately introduces the numeral " 0 " ….

                                                  .

                                                  … which sometimes goes by the alias (9-9)

                                                  MichaelG.

                                                  #559740
                                                  not done it yet
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                                                    @notdoneityet
                                                    Posted by Nigel Bennett on 24/08/2021 17:08:10:

                                                    I'm sure there must be a much simpler expression for the 9 o'clock position, but I can't imagine what…

                                                    Yep, I thought that, too. After all it is about the number 9. KISS principle and all that.

                                                    Now set about the minute hand?!

                                                    Duncan, Ama-zing or -zon.

                                                    #559748
                                                    Journeyman
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                                                      @journeyman

                                                      Of course if you have an aversion to 9's and prefer computers over maths there is always this version:

                                                      binaryclock.jpg

                                                      Available from the same source along with a few other strange ones. Digital binary is quite good!

                                                      John

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