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  • #27796
    Paul Lousick
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      #510316
      Paul Lousick
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        @paullousick59116

        Why are so many people on this site so reluctant to say "ebay" and refer to it as that Asian company, Fleabay or that company which cannot be mentioned but have no problem with saying Amazon, Lidl, Aldi, etc ???????

        If we are to ban the naming of manufacturers or suppliers, we would also have to ban names like Myford, Starrett, Mitutoyo, etc.

        Paul.,

        #510318
        Anonymous
          Posted by Paul Lousick on 27/11/2020 22:16:11:

          Why are so many people on this site so reluctant to say "ebay" and refer to it as that Asian company, Fleabay or that company which cannot be mentioned but have no problem with saying Amazon, Lidl, Aldi, etc ???????

          I doubt they know themselves. They probably turn around 3 times widdershins, clutching a rabbit's foot before using the euphemisms too.

           

          | If we are to ban the naming of manufacturers or suppliers, we would also have to ban names like Myford, Starrett, Mitutoyo, etc.

          Or even Arc devil

           

          Edited By Peter Greene on 27/11/2020 22:33:41

          #510319
          Steviegtr
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            @steviegtr

            I guess there is no reason. Not on this site. Not sure about bangood though. I buy most of my goods from ebay. If i could find them at the same or even near the same price from sponsors i would buy them. But nearly every thing i have bought for the mill & lathe new, are nearly twice the price for the same item. You could be led by the myth that only sponsored products are good & you can send them back. But so far i have had no complaints about most of what i have bought from ebay. An example is my todays delivery of a boring bar with 9 inserts & a MT2 arbor M10 in a pretty plastic box. For a grand total of £44.99. The nearest i could find on here was £95.74. Some will say they are not the same but that is not another argument i want to get into. So the profit markup must be quite high. So while ever they are so expensive elsewhere then ebay is my goto.

            Steve.

            #510321
            Windy
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              @windy30762

              I buy many things on ebay auctions latest many new tipped tools and loads of tips to fit them most are suitable for my Myford the tips also fit my larger tools.

              Not the cheapest but a dealers price would probably be double.

              Any disputes have eventually been sorted something you have to be watchful of are used equipment as the odd seller can be economical with the condition of it.

              #510322
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133
                Posted by Paul Lousick on 27/11/2020 22:16:11:

                Why are so many people on this site so reluctant to say "ebay"

                […]

                .

                Mostly, I think, It’s just a silly affectation

                MichaelG.

                #510330
                Bazyle
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                  @bazyle

                  Since we already have an ebay thread…..

                  I saw the text below in somebody's feedback record. They went to some trouble to do it so am I missing something obvious or is it just a pattern?

                  *-:¦:-•:*'""*:•.-:¦:-•: thank you *-:¦:-•:*'""*:•.-:¦:-•:

                  #510332
                  Anonymous

                    It's just a series of keyboard characters.

                    #510347
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb

                      Paul, I would say a good number of those not mentioning e-bay do not understand the changes to the Code of Conduct that happened a few months ago, maybe if you have a read of that you will be able to see why there is no problem mentioning e-bay or the companies you mention such as Myford, Starrett, Mitutoyo, etc.

                      You will also hopefully see that the "Asian company or that company" are not e-bay.

                      #510348
                      ChrisB
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                        @chrisb35596
                        Posted by JasonB on 28/11/2020 07:01:30:

                        You will also hopefully see that the "Asian company or that company" are not e-bay.

                        Jason, a large chunk of the stuff sold on ebay is probably worse than the stuff sold on " that company" aka Banggood..just saying…

                        #510349
                        JasonB
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                          @jasonb

                          Chris, Just pointing out to Paul that "Asian company" is not referring to e-bay as his post reads to me.

                          I don't make the rules – just have to try and apply them and e-bay links tend to take more time to check as there is a need to decide where the item may be coming from as business seller at the bottom of the page does not always match there the item location says.

                          #510352
                          not done it yet
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                            @notdoneityet

                            From my perspective, if you don’t mention the name the post does not elevate web site on search engines. They get more than enough to put them close to the top of the list, while more deserving sites are pushed down the list.

                            I personally don’t see why I should help them, in any way, with their advertising.

                            #510353
                            Ramon Wilson
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                              @ramonwilson3

                              I've always thought that those who use 'fleabay' or 'evil bay' or whatever have either an axe to grind or a some kind of complex by their seemingly childish and derogatory attitude in being able to refer to this correctly.

                              Personally I have used Ebay for many years – I have never recieved anything that I wasn't happy with and have only been 'conned' once and not recieved goods twice in all that time. Irritating at the time yes but payment was returned immediately an issue was raised and resolved.

                              It seems like I must be the only one but I am also a happy Banggood customer – so far anyway. The milling cutter bought sometime back performs as well with it's original tips as I could wish for but I don't push it on my bench mill like I would have at work on a bloody great universal mill. Impressed with it I bought a different type but was sent another the same as previously bought. The issue was quickly resolved to my satisfaction. Also bought a superb wallet and very warm jackets that haven't fallen apart yet either.

                              So it's very much 'Ebay' for me smiley

                               

                              Edited By Ramon Wilson on 28/11/2020 08:21:59

                              #510357
                              ChrisB
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                                @chrisb35596
                                Posted by JasonB on 28/11/2020 07:49:31:

                                Chris, Just pointing out to Paul that "Asian company" is not referring to e-bay as his post reads to me.

                                I don't make the rules – just have to try and apply them and e-bay links tend to take more time to check as there is a need to decide where the item may be coming from as business seller at the bottom of the page does not always match there the item location says.

                                I know what you mean Jason, and I understand it would be impractical for moderators to check every posted link for compliance with the COC. I was guilty in the past for such links, but nowadays, out of respect for the work you guys do I refrain from posting such links (even tho I still disagree with the COC devil)

                                Although I'm not based in the UK I have purchased my lathe and mill from Warco, placed orders for tools from ARC, won bids on ebay and ordered from Banggood. I hate sweeping statements such as this or that chinese company sell only crap and junk… some items may be, but not everything is. I'm happy with most my purchases, I do my homework well before.

                                #510358
                                Tony Pratt 1
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                                  @tonypratt1

                                  980 transactions on Ebay mostly good so will continue to use them, also use Arc, Warco, Cromwell tools, Cutwel, Banggood, etc.etc. These days most of the tooling & other stuff is made in China or India, my new Bosch dishwasher was made in Turkeyfrown, another case of 'badge engineering'

                                  Tony

                                  #510359
                                  David Colwill
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                                    @davidcolwill19261

                                    Technically it is eBay. The capital being the "B" not the "e".

                                    Regards.

                                    David.

                                    #510360
                                    Tony Pratt 1
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                                      @tonypratt1
                                      Posted by David Colwill on 28/11/2020 09:05:37:

                                      Technically it is eBay. The capital being the "B" not the "e".

                                      Regards.

                                      David.

                                      Who gives a s***, your smart answer isn't worth the 't'

                                      Tony

                                      #510362
                                      Michael Gilligan
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                                        @michaelgilligan61133
                                        Posted by David Colwill on 28/11/2020 09:05:37:

                                        Technically it is eBay. The capital being the "B" not the "e".

                                        Regards.

                                        David.

                                        .

                                        Oh heck … does that mean I am visiting a spoof site ?

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                                        dont know MichaelG.

                                        #510363
                                        SillyOldDuffer
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                                          @sillyoldduffer
                                          Posted by Bazyle on 28/11/2020 00:49:40:

                                          Since we already have an ebay thread…..

                                          I saw the text below in somebody's feedback record. They went to some trouble to do it so am I missing something obvious or is it just a pattern?

                                          *-:¦:-•:*'""*:•.-:¦:-•: thank you *-:¦:-•:*'""*:•.-:¦:-•:

                                          Posted by Peter Greene on 28/11/2020 01:29:10:

                                          It's just a series of keyboard characters.

                                          ………….

                                          Not quite 'just a series of keyboard characters", it's a member of the Emoticon family called a 'Sparkler'. In this example it means 'This is a Bigger Thank You Than Normal'. The sender took the trouble of jazzing the message up. We've no idea if it's sincere or not!

                                          It's in the same category as the Frame around the Mona Lisa.

                                          I hate emoticons.

                                          angel

                                          Re ebay. Many Brits dislike providing free advertising to vulgar commercial operations. "Bay of E" is a polite euphemism in the same category as "I am going to see a man about a dog".

                                          Dave

                                          #510364
                                          David Colwill
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                                            @davidcolwill19261
                                            Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 28/11/2020 09:15:36:

                                            Posted by David Colwill on 28/11/2020 09:05:37:

                                            Technically it is eBay. The capital being the "B" not the "e".

                                            Regards.

                                            David.

                                            Who gives a s***, your smart answer isn't worth the 't'

                                            Tony

                                            This being a forum of pedants….

                                            #510365
                                            Leo F Byrne 1
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                                              @leofbyrne1

                                              Please, be polite.

                                              #510373
                                              Martin Connelly
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                                                @martinconnelly55370

                                                I like eBay, I've been distance buying for decades, long before the internet was a thing. Buy a magazine and search through the adverts for a supplier that has what you want has been replaced with search the internet for it. It's basically the same process with the same benefits and pitfalls. As someone who lives about 20 miles from the nearest place that could be classed as a large town or city the ability to be able to find someone selling 5 capacitors of a physical size, voltage and capacity rating that I want and having them delivered within 2 days for less than £3 is a no brainer.

                                                Just like to point out that a couple of common sizes of capacitors can repair the power supplies on plenty of modern electrical and electronic items. The past month I have replaced capacitors with bulging ends in a flat screen TV and a powerline network adaptor. Much better for the environment and my bank balance than binning them and buying new.

                                                Martin C

                                                #510377
                                                David Colwill
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                                                  @davidcolwill19261
                                                  Posted by Michael Gilligan on 28/11/2020 09:19:34:

                                                  Posted by David Colwill on 28/11/2020 09:05:37:

                                                  Technically it is eBay. The capital being the "B" not the "e".

                                                  Regards.

                                                  David.

                                                  .

                                                  Oh heck … does that mean I am visiting a spoof site ?

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                                                  dont know MichaelG.

                                                  Strange that!

                                                  I was told about the eBay spelling at an online seminar and hadn't noticed it before. They were trying to explain how to do titles for listings and saying that putting random capitals in titles (some people do this apparently) was bad and that the only exception to this was eBay, which has (or should have) a capital B. It seems odd that they themselves should omit it in their logo!

                                                  If you look elsewhere on the site, you will see it spelled with the "B"

                                                  To be honest I can't always be bothered with it, unless of course I wish to be pedantic smile p

                                                  Regards

                                                  dAvid

                                                  #510379
                                                  Robert Atkinson 2
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                                                    @robertatkinson2
                                                    Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 28/11/2020 09:05:09:

                                                    980 transactions on Ebay mostly good so will continue to use them, also use Arc, Warco, Cromwell tools, Cutwel, Banggood, etc.etc. These days most of the tooling & other stuff is made in China or India, my new Bosch dishwasher was made in Turkeyfrown, another case of 'badge engineering'

                                                    Tony

                                                    Your Bosh dish washer being made outside the UK or Germany or wherever you "think" it should have been, does not make it badge engineering. If it was bulit to a Bosh specification by subcontractor, it's a Bosch. Badge engineering is were a company takes a product designed (or specified) and sold by another and has their name put on it.

                                                    Robert G8RPI.

                                                    #510382
                                                    blowlamp
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                                                      @blowlamp

                                                      I find Turkey an interesting one because they aren't in the EU and yet Toyota make vehicles there that are sold here, Bosch make stuff there that is sold here and Beko appliances fill electrical shops over here too. Seems like Turkey has a solid business strategy. rainbow

                                                      Martin.

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