dead vice

This topic has 20 replies, 15 voices, and was last updated 8 July 2017 at 21:13 by Mark Rand.

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5 July 2017 at 20:54 #305731
keith wedgwood
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oh bug.r

i have just broken my vice

any ideas of what to do with it
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5 July 2017 at 20:54 #25342
keith wedgwood
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5 July 2017 at 20:58 #305734
Ady1
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@ady1
Make a steel one? Will last you a lifetime.
5 July 2017 at 20:58 #305735
Nige
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Do you own a boat? Does it need a new anchor 😊😁
5 July 2017 at 21:11 #305740
RichardN
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I know one of our uni workshop technicians used an old 4" record vice a student broke as a source for cast iron piston rings… and I have the main slide as an anvil clamped to a work bench… no idea what happened to the rest…
5 July 2017 at 21:30 #305748
Neil Wyatt
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Depends on the quality of the cast iron and the type of vice. Good CI can be repurposed as useful parts or just raw material, lesser stuff may still provide jigs and angle brackets. The worst (with big voids and a texture like Christmas cake) can be melted down to make Super Adepts.

Neil
5 July 2017 at 21:35 #305750
keith wedgwood
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@keithwedgwood19516
its a record no 8
5 July 2017 at 21:55 #305756
Tim Stevens
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@timstevens64731
It says in the good book that we should abstain from vice. So perhaps this failure is a message from on high?

Tim
5 July 2017 at 22:08 #305759
not done it yet
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@notdoneityet
A long time ago, I had a broken 6" vise (later replaced with a similar one in good condition). I bolted plates on both sides, across the crack, and then carefully welded the thick plates wherever possible,

Lasted years and was still serviceable (but not pretty) when scrapped.
5 July 2017 at 22:18 #305761
John Reese
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I would try oxy-acy welding with cast iron rod and borax flux. I weld CI mthat way fairly regularly.
5 July 2017 at 22:41 #305769
Mark Rand
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Where is it broken, that considerably affects any repair options. Broken castings are amenable to welding with nickel rods with some pre-heat to reduce cracking.

The No 8 is a lightweight vice with jaws that are somewhat oversize for its strength. The No 24 and 25 are much nicer vices if you can find them without having to sell the house to pay for them.

Edited By Mark Rand on 05/07/2017 22:43:29

Edited By Mark Rand on 05/07/2017 22:44:17
6 July 2017 at 00:13 #305776
Hopper
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@hopper
I've a big heavy old six-inch Record vice that someone managed to snap in half and then brazed it back together with bronze. I bought it like that, unknowingly, at a garage sale and it has worked perfectly in my shed for three or four years now. I reckon it would have taken massive heat and someone who knew what he was doing to braze that lump back together though. But it can be done.
6 July 2017 at 04:06 #305781
Maurice Cox 1
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@mauricecox1
Mark mentions preheating the casting. Years ago I knew a man whose traction engine started to crack along the flange that holds it on the boiler. The firm he took it to put it in a muffle furnace, got it red hot, and welded it while it was still glowing! Sounds scarey. It must have worked; the engine is still about.
6 July 2017 at 07:24 #305785
Neil Wyatt
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>OW<

How is it broken?
6 July 2017 at 13:45 #305854
Bazyle
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@bazyle
Quick, there are lightning storms around at the moment. Stick a bolt through its neck and rig up a wire pointing skywards…………….
6 July 2017 at 15:58 #305888
Maurice Cox 1
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@mauricecox1
I see that I left "cylinder block" out of my post. Sorry! On this particular engine, a Robey 5ton Tractor, there is no form of support between the flywheel end of the trunk guides and the boiler, so it was trying to wag up and down all the time the engine was running. Bigger pull, more wag! It took from1918 until about 1983 to crack it, so it lasted quite well.
6 July 2017 at 16:21 #305893
richardandtracy
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@richardandtracy
Posted by Bazyle on 06/07/2017 13:45:08:

Quick, there are lightning storms around at the moment. Stick a bolt through its neck and rig up a wire pointing skywards…………….

For all the latest lightning in real time, take a look here: **LINK**

It's been a pretty active day today.

Regards,

Richard
6 July 2017 at 20:03 #305928
larry Phelan
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@larryphelan54019
Scrap it and buy a new vice,dont waste your time arsing around with it,just get on with the job !
8 July 2017 at 16:08 #306151
Viceman
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@viceman
Nice one here, hardly used example. One of the best I have come across. **LINK**
8 July 2017 at 16:52 #306159
not done it yet
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@notdoneityet
Here is another on epay and I don't have a personal interest in the sale….

**LINK**

And here is another of the many…

**LINK**

I don't have personal interest in that one either. Far cheaper than the above personal advert. I have no idea of value for money, but suspect thes may be better…
8 July 2017 at 21:13 #306205
Mark Rand
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@markrand96270
What is it with gougers that do blue-paint rebuilds?

The paint isn't an operative part of the vice, even when applied with a yard broom.
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