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  • #305731
    keith wedgwood
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      @keithwedgwood19516

      oh bug.r

      i have just broken my vice

      any ideas of what to do with it

      #25342
      keith wedgwood
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        @keithwedgwood19516
        #305734
        Ady1
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          @ady1

          Make a steel one? Will last you a lifetime.

          #305735
          Nige
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            @nige81730

            Do you own a boat? Does it need a new anchor 😊😁

            #305740
            RichardN
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              @richardn

              I know one of our uni workshop technicians used an old 4" record vice a student broke as a source for cast iron piston rings… and I have the main slide as an anvil clamped to a work bench… no idea what happened to the rest…

              #305748
              Neil Wyatt
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                @neilwyatt

                Depends on the quality of the cast iron and the type of vice. Good CI can be repurposed as useful parts or just raw material, lesser stuff may still provide jigs and angle brackets. The worst (with big voids and a texture like Christmas cake) can be melted down to make Super Adepts.

                Neil

                #305750
                keith wedgwood
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                  @keithwedgwood19516

                  its a record no 8

                  #305756
                  Tim Stevens
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                    @timstevens64731

                    It says in the good book that we should abstain from vice. So perhaps this failure is a message from on high?

                    Tim

                    #305759
                    not done it yet
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                      @notdoneityet

                      A long time ago, I had a broken 6" vise (later replaced with a similar one in good condition). I bolted plates on both sides, across the crack, and then carefully welded the thick plates wherever possible,

                      Lasted years and was still serviceable (but not pretty) when scrapped.

                      #305761
                      John Reese
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                        @johnreese12848

                        I would try oxy-acy welding with cast iron rod and borax flux. I weld CI mthat way fairly regularly.

                        #305769
                        Mark Rand
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                          @markrand96270

                          Where is it broken, that considerably affects any repair options. Broken castings are amenable to welding with nickel rods with some pre-heat to reduce cracking.

                           

                          The No 8 is a lightweight vice with jaws that are somewhat oversize for its strength. The No 24 and 25 are much nicer vices if you can find them without having to sell the house to pay for them.

                          Edited By Mark Rand on 05/07/2017 22:43:29

                          Edited By Mark Rand on 05/07/2017 22:44:17

                          #305776
                          Hopper
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                            @hopper

                            I've a big heavy old six-inch Record vice that someone managed to snap in half and then brazed it back together with bronze. I bought it like that, unknowingly, at a garage sale and it has worked perfectly in my shed for three or four years now. I reckon it would have taken massive heat and someone who knew what he was doing to braze that lump back together though. But it can be done.

                            #305781
                            Maurice Cox 1
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                              @mauricecox1

                              Mark mentions preheating the casting. Years ago I knew a man whose traction engine started to crack along the flange that holds it on the boiler. The firm he took it to put it in a muffle furnace, got it red hot, and welded it while it was still glowing! Sounds scarey. It must have worked; the engine is still about.

                              #305785
                              Neil Wyatt
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                                @neilwyatt

                                >OW<

                                How is it broken?

                                #305854
                                Bazyle
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                                  @bazyle

                                  Quick, there are lightning storms around at the moment. Stick a bolt through its neck and rig up a wire pointing skywards…………….

                                  #305888
                                  Maurice Cox 1
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                                    @mauricecox1

                                    I see that I left "cylinder block" out of my post. Sorry! On this particular engine, a Robey 5ton Tractor, there is no form of support between the flywheel end of the trunk guides and the boiler, so it was trying to wag up and down all the time the engine was running. Bigger pull, more wag! It took from1918 until about 1983 to crack it, so it lasted quite well.

                                    #305893
                                    richardandtracy
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                                      @richardandtracy
                                      Posted by Bazyle on 06/07/2017 13:45:08:

                                      Quick, there are lightning storms around at the moment. Stick a bolt through its neck and rig up a wire pointing skywards…………….

                                      For all the latest lightning in real time, take a look here: **LINK**

                                      It's been a pretty active day today.

                                      Regards,

                                      Richard

                                      #305928
                                      larry Phelan
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                                        @larryphelan54019

                                        Scrap it and buy a new vice,dont waste your time arsing around with it,just get on with the job !

                                        #306151
                                        Viceman
                                        Participant
                                          @viceman

                                          Nice one here, hardly used example. One of the best I have come across. **LINK**

                                          #306159
                                          not done it yet
                                          Participant
                                            @notdoneityet

                                            Here is another on epay and I don't have a personal interest in the sale….

                                            **LINK**

                                            And here is another of the many…

                                            **LINK**

                                            I don't have personal interest in that one either. Far cheaper than the above personal advert. I have no idea of value for money, but suspect thes may be better…

                                            #306205
                                            Mark Rand
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                                              @markrand96270

                                              What is it with gougers that do blue-paint rebuilds?

                                              The paint isn't an operative part of the vice, even when applied with a yard broomangry.

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