Threaded rod

[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

I need a 1" x -6 tpi x 24" acme threaded steel rod for a jig to make threaded lid canisters.

[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

Hi Duane, are these canisters for you or are they for your work?

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[JohnFParticipant @johnf59703]

Duane, have a look at this thread on here **LINK** also you could contact these people **LINK**

Does it have to be 6tpi ? it seems to limit your choices — depends on the "why" for 6 tpi ?

John

[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

I'm making several Threaded Lid Canisters to sell, I got the plans from Woodsmith.com(find them in the free plans category,it goes to downloads), they made a few on an episode. The plans call for an ACME 1" -6 x 36 Threaded steel rod, I have a double angle bit to cut the threads into the wood. The jigs are made from panels of MDF(like 4-3/4x24x48 panels), gives places where to get the material for the canisters(lids are MDF also).

[JohnFParticipant @johnf59703]

Looking on the woodsmith site at the canister article there does not seem to be any reason why it cannot be 5 tpi in place of 6tpi and there are more 5 tpi bars available, you could also compromise on the diameter as well if need be.

Just make sure you buy a single start thread and not a multi start !

John

[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

Not to argue John, I thought I did a single start thread. I'll ask the remaining person that was on the show and part of the publishers/editors/Executive board that built the Canisters. Then get back to this.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

As the video says you can use whatever size thread you like then the 6tpi can't be critical. If you are outside the US then you will find it easier and cheaper to by metric trapizoidal rod rather than ACME. Also counting the threads on the rod in the video I would say it's closer to 4tpi which is a stock pitch for 1" diameter so TR20x4mm would do.

EDIT, Guy says he used 5tpi which is a stock ACME pitch at 1" so should be able to by that or go to a 5mm pitch TR rod which will be very similar if a smaller diameter.

Edited By JasonB on 03/07/2019 08:36:13

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

OK, so how much $$ for a 1" x -5 tpi x 24" ? Bill, are you thinking about making some for yourself or…?

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

As I said depends where in the world you are, metric TR25x5 would cost you about £25 for a meter plus a fiver postage.

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

When I was in HS, I took wood shop(easiest 3 credits next to P.E.), I made a few things on the large lathe, a short fat bat, an 8"-10" x 6" deep pot( no lid); I almost lost the back of my right hand using the bandsaw to cut the corners off to make it easier to lathe, the block of wood just barely was cut ,my hand slipped past the blade and grazed the back of the blade(thank goodness). Through magazines;I made a 16 drawer DVD cabinet in last 10 years,still have it. I made a 12 drawer with cabinet dresser with a split top around '00. I make paper towel holders from red oak(or any wood),lathe the post using same wood(i can buy a 1 1/2 sq. x 24" piece of red oak withe the 1 x 8(7 1/2) x 4 piece of red oak(turn the board 90 degrees on the radial arm,slide the board up to the blade,put a stop block opposite the blade, run the board up to the fence and the block to make a square base). Cut the 1.5"sq to 14" long,find center on each end, put the drive center in one end and place on shaft to turn it;other end to tail drive( I have a ShopSmith 510, 5 tools in one). I'll cut the corners off by tilting the table to 45 degrees,adjust the fence. I have a welding machine to incorporate metal with wood. WoodSmith has a lot of free plans, several that have to buy, I'm waiting for a new season,without several of the crew. What kind of crafts does your wife make?

[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

I'm in Indiana, I lived in Mississippi,Oahu,Arizona,California back to AZ,now in Indiana. Never been out of the USA(yet).

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

**LINK**

Didn't realize you were in USA Duane. McMaster Carr has the threaded rod you need, at link above, and will ship direct to your home.

[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

Yes, where else is there to live, the UK? I know, I'm going to get some thrust bearings from them for my Versatile Storage cart(also from WoodSmith). I may just get the 1" x -5 tpi x 36 from McMaster instead, slightly more space between threads than the -6 tpi. I even got a good deal on the double angle bit; under $50. I have alternatives where to get many other parts at a lesser price.

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Posted by Duane Ayres on 03/07/2019 16:43:58:

I'm in Indiana, I lived in Mississippi,Oahu,Arizona,California back to AZ,now in Indiana. Never been out of the USA(yet).

Would be good to put that in your profile.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Duane Ayres on 03/07/2019 23:27:16:

Yes, where else is there to live, the UK?

As everyone is welcome the forum is distinctly international. Based in the UK, but used by English speakers around the world and it's not always clear where they are.

This causes much amusement, as when an event I thought to be 60 miles down the road from me in England was actually in New Zealand.

Advice about buying stuff is often highly location dependent, for example in Europe metric square thread is much cheaper than ACME which information is so much poo if you are buying in the US! Another reason for explaining where you are is the peril of post-and-packing across borders. This varies from straightforward to ouch expensive, with USA/Europe being particularly costly.

Threaded lid canisters – very interesting!

Dave

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

That looks like an interesting set up, Any thread type would work, and it would be handy to have a number of pitches for fine medium and course, a small machine could use a Dremel tool instead of the router.

Ian S C (one of the guys from NZ)

[egaParticipant @ega]

Sobering to think that these used to be made by hand turning methods. I believe this is an example:

I seem to remember that in his classic "The Practical Woodturner" Frank Pain suggested that the men who did this work went mad!

Edited By ega on 04/07/2019 11:59:53

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

This site could have the Country after our name: "John Doe USA",abbreviated versions; Grmny,UK(covers most of Europe/England) You know about ancestry kits? I'm part Germanic,Wales/Welsh, Scottish and Irish. I have a cousin that his first and middle are opposite of mine; my dad asks if his sister who was also adopted had any originality,lol..I had checked prior to getting on this site, checking with McMaster (they have the thrust bearings) , jig knobs with 4 prongs/arms, 5/16 x -18 female through hole. We have other woodworking sources; Woodcraft store, Rockler stores, Lowes and Home Depot(Lumber/hardware tools etc). In Arizona there is a "Woodworkers Source" store,I've been to them several times.

[Duane AyresParticipant @duaneayres88517]

Yeah, making that threaded pot,must have been madding. Where is NZ? ( I see you in a uniform;USAF)? Lathes turn too fast to do threads, there is mechanism that is turned by a handle,has a 1" pulley and a 2" pulley both with cord,a router sits on a bracket with a special bit. Someone turns the router on and turns the handle, it make thread like designs into a rounded piece of wood(the router moves quicker than the wood, due to the 2" pulley). A Dremel tool is usually 1/4",not sure what bit to use, a 1/4" trim router may work with a 1/4" shank bit, don't know if a double angle bit comes with 1/4" shank. I have a smaller size router like WoodSmith used,have to check if the 1/2" shank will work on it(would take a 1/2" collet.

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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