Motorcycle General Discussion

[JimmieSParticipant @jimmies]

4 cylinder 50cc racer. A great attempt to do something different.

**LINK**

[WindyParticipant @windy30762]

One of the greats of sidecar racing with his own design of engine **LINK**

[Chris Evans 6Participant @chrisevans6]

Yes Windy, so much better than the TZ Yamaha engine outfits of the era.

[CirclipParticipant @circlip]

Although Sir John didn't like our circuit in NE Yorkshire, the chariot battles between Max, Fritz, Florian, and Helmut still bring back fond sixties memories.

Regards Ian.

[Roger Williams 2Participant @rogerwilliams2]

Windy, keep your posts coming, so interesting .

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Hows this for a monocycle?

Note the 100mph claim by the Italian inventor…

[Nick_GParticipant @nick_g]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 17/04/2016 16:19:27:

Hows this for a monocycle?

Note the 100mph claim by the Italian inventor…

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I take it that was in reverse.?

Nick

[Nick_GParticipant @nick_g]

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Went today to the Oakmere branch of J&S with a mate.

I bought a can of chain lube. ………………….. He however bought a big beast new bike.

Nick

[Steve WithnellParticipant @stevewithnell34426]

OK. I have one of those large green paper driving licences. It says  that the licence covers motorcycles over 50cc and capable of more than 50kmh with or without a sidecar – on a provisional basis. Since my licence was issued in the last century, what am I now entitled to ride in the 21st century with this licence?

Been on the DVLA website and I wasn't clear how it dealt with last century licences…

 

Steve

 

Edited By Steve Withnell on 18/04/2016 17:53:52

[WindyParticipant @windy30762]

At P.E.E.M.S. club workshop meeting today a member brought various mags and cataloques for us all.

Ted said anyone interested in motorcycles I was given April 1952 Motorcycling magazine with a write up of Noel Pope record attempt machine.

Also September 1973 Motor Cycle Mechanics with articles from my era of competition.

[DodParticipant @dod]

Posted by Steve Withnell on 18/04/2016 17:53:15:

OK. I have one of those large green paper driving licences. It says that the licence covers motorcycles over 50cc and capable of more than 50kmh with or without a sidecar – on a provisional basis. Since my licence was issued in the last century, what am I now entitled to ride in the 21st century with this licence?

Been on the DVLA website and I wasn't clear how it dealt with last century licences…

Steve

Edited By Steve Withnell on 18/04/2016 17:53:52

I got one of those green ones too and I belt around on my restricted to 30 mph, no passengers and no CBT moped legally and without "L" plates as I do not want to appear inexperienced.

Had licence and moped carefully checked and no problems by the polis when my moped supposedly overstayed its time in a popular low price supermarket car park 220 miles from home, I had been cloned by a VW Tiguan and somebody wanted 60 pounds for the privelege.

[DodParticipant @dod]

Don't know how the above addition happened, Sorry

 

Dod

Edited By Dod on 19/04/2016 22:12:09

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Steve Withnell on 18/04/2016 17:53:15:

OK. I have one of those large green paper driving licences. It says that the licence covers motorcycles over 50cc and capable of more than 50kmh with or without a sidecar – on a provisional basis. Since my licence was issued in the last century, what am I now entitled to ride in the 21st century with this licence?

Been on the DVLA website and I wasn't clear how it dealt with last century licences…

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Steve,

Is this any help ?

MichaelG.

[Anonymous]

Posted by Steve Withnell on 18/04/2016 17:53:15:

OK. I have one of those large green paper driving licences. It says that the licence covers motorcycles over 50cc and capable of more than 50kmh with or without a sidecar – on a provisional basis. Since my licence was issued in the last century, what am I now entitled to ride in the 21st century with this licence?

Been on the DVLA website and I wasn't clear how it dealt with last century licences…

Steve

Edited By Steve Withnell on 18/04/2016 17:53:52

You've got full moped licence entitlement i.e no L plates or CBT , for anything else over a moped then it's a provisional for whichever category /power of bike meaning you'll need L plates and a CBT,

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Windy, I'll bet that blown Pope-JAP had a note to it when it fired up.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Steve Withnell on 18/04/2016 17:53:15:

OK. I have one of those large green paper driving licences. It says that the licence covers motorcycles over 50cc and capable of more than 50kmh with or without a sidecar – on a provisional basis. Since my licence was issued in the last century, what am I now entitled to ride in the 21st century with this licence?

I think that technically means you can't drive ANYTHING until; you get a replacement licence (you have to get a new photocard every 10- years!)

neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Mick Berrisford on 19/04/2016 22:43:19:

Posted by Steve Withnell on 18/04/2016 17:53:15:

OK. I have one of those large green paper driving licences. It says that the licence covers motorcycles over 50cc and capable of more than 50kmh with or without a sidecar – on a provisional basis. Since my licence was issued in the last century, what am I now entitled to ride in the 21st century with this licence?

Been on the DVLA website and I wasn't clear how it dealt with last century licences…

You've got full moped licence entitlement i.e no L plates or CBT , for anything else over a moped then it's a provisional for whichever category /power of bike meaning you'll need L plates and a CBT,

All the digging around the .gov site suggests to me I need CBT for a moped even though I've had provisional entitlement for <=125cc since the eighties.

Neil

[JAParticipant @ja]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 20/04/2016 11:23:03:

Posted by Steve Withnell on 18/04/2016 17:53:15:

OK. I have one of those large green paper driving licences. It says that the licence covers motorcycles over 50cc and capable of more than 50kmh with or without a sidecar – on a provisional basis. Since my licence was issued in the last century, what am I now entitled to ride in the 21st century with this licence?

I think that technically means you can't drive ANYTHING until; you get a replacement licence (you have to get a new photocard every 10- years!)

neil

Last year I saw this being advertised on a video screen at a service station en-route to France. After an initial panic I decided to ignore it. When I returned home I checked on the DVLA web site and it turns out that this only applies to some re-issues. So I keep my large dog-eared (all those speeding offences) paper licence for another year. Then I will be 70 and have to surrender it.

JA

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

I gained my full car licence in 1958 and I have never taken a motorcycle test. Yet a note that my licence allows me to drive a three-wheeler. Is that something like a Reliant Robin, or does it also include a motorcycle and sidecar? Anyone know?

[Anonymous]

Nope, unless it's specified on your licence that you can, sidecars are a different category than the three wheelers, Reliants etc are classed as a motor tricycle (or were) and the other is a motorcycle fitted with a sidecar. 3 wheelers were the old crossovers where you could drive one on either a full bike or car licence,The old sidecar rule was you could ride any size of bike with a sidecar on a provisional with L plates but they stopped that one years ago when people were sticking what amounted to a tea tray with a wheel on a big bike and blasting round on L platers.

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

Thanks, Mick. At 75 I prefer a comfortable car anyway, but if I were 30 years younger things might be different……………..

[JimmieSParticipant @jimmies]

The engineering drawing for late 30's Rudge cam followers give the heat treatment spec as

HT 7/04/Pc HT16

Can any knowledgeable person explain this is simple terms, please.

[joeyParticipant @joey]

Posted by JimmieS on 20/04/2016 21:06:27:

The engineering drawing for late 30's Rudge cam followers give the heat treatment spec as

HT 7/04/Pc HT16

Can any knowledgeable person explain this is simple terms, please.

I suspect the numbers represent another factory engineering drawing or heat treating process.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Mick Berrisford on 20/04/2016 13:02:47:

The old sidecar rule was you could ride any size of bike with a sidecar on a provisional with L plates but they stopped that one years ago when people were sticking what amounted to a tea tray with a wheel on a big bike and blasting round on L platers.

I remember those – like a sort of fibreglass flap, sprung so if you leant over it just folded up, and with a little dolly-wheel.

Neil

[Dave plus / minus 40 thouParticipant @daveplusminus40thou]

I think they went by the name "sidewinder" Neil, it got you a big bike with L plates – you could ride / lean as per normal although you needed to remember the extra width when cutting corners…….!

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