A Fine Finishing Tool To Suit A Mini-Lathe

A Fine Finishing Tool To Suit A Mini-Lathe

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    Danny M2Z
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      @dannym2z

      swarf like steel wool - s.jpgtool in action - s.jpg

      G'day.

      After making a tailstock threading die holder for my C3 minilathe I decided to have a go at turning an M2 arbour to hold it. I have never attempted to turn a Morse taper before so figured that this could be interesting.

      A suitable lump of (unknown provenance, but it's marked '2011'  mild steel (3/4" ) was found in the goodies box and so the turning began.

      It soon become evident that this was the cheesiest bit of steel that I have ever attempted to turn, it defeated my best round nose tools (railway tracks) so a new approach was required.

      Then I remembered downloading an article many years ago about a 'Contrary Turning Tool' **LINK** – so as the grinder was set up I decided to give it a go.

      The results were excellent, the swarf came off like fine steel wool (actually dust with a 1/2 thou cut).

      A few observations for mini-lathe users, if you don't have a QTCP then make a pile of shims – I use packing straps, this is the beaut thing about this tool, height does not really matter and add or delete a shim for the final cut.

      Sorry if the photo's are all over the place but this site has the crappiest software editing suite – maybe it was supplied by the lowest bidder but it's still bovine effluent.

      * Danny M *

      sutton toolbit 60? end grind - s.jpgsutton toolbit in hh grinding toolholder - s.jpgsutton toolbit original 15? grind - s.jpg

      Edited By Danny M2Z on 16/11/2015 03:40:05

      Edited By Danny M2Z on 16/11/2015 03:48:56

      Edited By Danny M2Z on 16/11/2015 04:11:34

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      Danny M2Z
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        @dannym2z
        #212544
        mahgnia
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          @mahgnia

          Danny,

          These tools do work well, but they seem to give the best result with a very fine DOC, slow feed, slow RPM, and coolant/cutting fluid.

          They do have a tendency to wear quickly at the cutting edge due to the heat from the chip rubbing down the face of the tool..

          Andrew.

          #212607
          mechman48
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            @mechman48

            Made one couple of months ago, nice action / finish, best on ally', as said low rpm. .001" doc, slowest feed on lathe, coolant / cutting fluid, now need to make something to use it on… thinking

            George.

            #212615
            Vic
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              @vic

              I have tried one of those but was not particularly impressed with the finish at the time. I must give it another go, now where did I put that tool? surprise

              #212706
              Roger Head
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                @rogerhead16992

                This is one of those 'round tuit' projects that has never happened, but one day… There were two long threads on other forums, worth a read, with the grinds being extended to flycutting use.

                http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=84313

                http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/39894-Shearing-tool-update

                #212708
                Danny M2Z
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                  @dannym2z

                  G' day – Thanks for the links Roger. The people on those sites came up with the same conclusions that I did.

                  It's a really useful tool for taking very fine finishing cuts.

                  I inspected the shearing edge today with a loupe, there was evidence of very slight wear after many experimental cuts on the mild steel (to determine optimum speed and depth of cut). This was easily rectified with a fine diamond lap, and anyway, just adding or removing a packing shim presents a fresh part of the edge to the work.

                  About 220rpm and 0.001" gives a finish such that the ridges cannot be felt with a fingernail scratched along the work, and as Mechman48 (George) said, it's brilliant on aluminium with a spash of kero. A .0005" cut resulted in no swarf as such, just a grey sludge with a mirror finish full of rainbow hues on the ali.

                  I should have made one ages ago as it's going to be perfect for finishing small pistons prior to lapping them.

                  * Danny M *

                  Edited By Danny M2Z on 17/11/2015 02:48:53

                  #213424
                  thaiguzzi
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                    @thaiguzzi

                    Shear tool – used commonly on shapers, but with a curved face. A curved face for the lathe tool will also enable you to face with it. Yes, they give a great finish on round parts in a lathe, what i like about them, is once you are down to your last couple of thou, and switched over to the finishing shear tool, you are getting a consistent diameter the length of the workpiece. If you think they give a nice finish on a lathe, try a shaper shear tool – like a ground mirror finish.

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