5 inch gauge petrol electric locomotive

5 inch gauge petrol electric locomotive

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    wendy jackson
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      Hi chaps, I am thinking of making a 5 inch gauge petrol electric loco.i know that 7 1/4 would be easier but I don, t have the space.so my question is.does anyone know of a narrow petrol engine that will drive an alternator from a horizontal shalf.the inside measurement of the frames are 8 inches wide.thanks, michael

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      wendy jackson
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        #139861
        Bazyle
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          @bazyle

          I think lots of strimmer engines would fit that size. larger ones are 35cc. Be sure to leave lots of room for the silencer, and another silencer, and another one.

          #139937
          Ian S C
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            @iansc

            Quite a lot of the 25 cc motors end up in large scale model aircraft, and boats. I think there is a C 130 Hercules flying around Canterbury with 4 of these engines, They have to put in a flight plan with the control tower at Christchurch airport for each flight. ian S C

            #139943
            MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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              @michaelwilliams41215

              Hi Terry ,

              Might be both more productive and more fun to make the engine yourself .

              There is nothing in a basic petrol engine that’s any more difficult to make than in a steam engine .

              There are many published designs .

              You don’t have to accept published designs exactly as is – you can for instance scale up or down and make single cylinder ones as twins or even 4 cyl .

              With an adapted published design and a bit of enginuity you could actually make an engine which was has at least a passing resemblance to a full size locomotive engine .

              Amsbury built a diesel hydraulic with his own engine in and I can remember that others have built petrol electrics .

              Bob Symes built a petrol electric in Gauge 1 – that was described in MRN circa early 1970’s .

              Search of old ME’s 1960 to 1980 or so should yield useful articles .

              Also have a look at Westbury 1831 design petrol mechanical locomotive articles in earlier ME’s

              Regards ,

              MikeW

              Edited By MICHAEL WILLIAMS on 07/01/2014 14:01:22

              Edited By MICHAEL WILLIAMS on 07/01/2014 14:03:31

              #139945
              DMB
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                @dmb

                Brighton & Hove Soc. Min. Loco. Engrs/ aka Hove Park Rly., used to use a 5"G "diesel" HST loco., I think bright yellow, to haul passenger trains in the Park a few years ago. I thin Mick Funnel owned it. I was told it had a 90cc petrol strimmer engine. Went like a scalded cat.

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                Ian S C
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                  @iansc

                  90 cc is big for a strimmer, but is the size of the little Villiers that powered many lawn mowers, I'v just decommissioned a Villiers powered alternator, with any load on it, it used to seize after 20 minutes, problem, no forced cooling. New alternator is being built at the moment with a 3hp Kawasaki industrial motor, but it would be too big for your use.

                  It would be nice if you could find a small 4 stroke, it might sound better than a 2 stroke, and easier to silence. MikeW is right about building your self if that were possible. Ian S C

                  #140039
                  wendy jackson
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                    @wendyjackson

                    Thanks chaps for input.sometime back I made a loco in 5 gauge using a moped engine and direct chain drive.pulls very well, but cant get away from the moped sound.strimmer motors will be to low powered for my use.maybe I need to think of using the riding car to take the motor and alternator.this would allow me to use a good honda 4 stroke motor.so I am thinking a 7 1/4 body on 5 inch gauge running gear.not really sure if I like the idea of sitting on the engine.michael

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