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  • #325051
    Absolute Beginner
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      @absolutebeginner

      Hey all,

      Following on from my post yesterday about my Bridgeport table wobble/slack and specs etc I wanted to start by apologising for my initial impatience ref replies and indeed thank all of those that in fact did. THANKYOU.

      So for some reason painting the spare bedroom skirting board got brushed aside!, and I continued to play with my mill adjustments in anticipation of switch on day …coming soon if my sparky can keep to his promise.

      So renewed with enthusiasm and additional knowledge THANKS MARK and others…… I continued to adjust both the lead screw and gib settings.

      Well, I can say that I can get close to the initial shipping spec of 0.0008 Inch or approx 20 microns for metric heads, table slack/wobble at least on the x and y axis…not so bothered about the Z. However …… in doing so as you will have all guessed I am sure, movement towards the axis extremes has left me feeling that I can cancel my gym membership…..

      The gib adjustments were made with freely and backed off lead screw adjustments, so as to think in my little mind that they are not effecting table travel.

      Compromising on 35 micron slack on both the x and y axis wobble left for a noticeable, but I feel not unreasonable or unbearable, table tightening towards the extremes.

      Turning my attention to the lead screw backlashes.

      So again same problem as gibs, yes of cause you twit I hear you all say….. I can indeed reduce the backlash to nice figures i.e 3 thou, but my workout starts again when moving the tables to the extremes.

      So settling for 4 thou on the y axis, very very happy, and yes its perhaps tighter than it should be at the extremes to achieve this figure; my problem is with the x axis lead screw.

      Adjustments to compensate for backlash on the X axis lead screw result in the table becoming tooooo tight at the extremes very quickly. SO I have settled for 8 thou backlash on this axis.

      Whilst the backlash is not a major problem for me as I have a DRO fitted and will take care when climb milling, which I favour when working, I was wondering on peoples thoughts as to the worth of changing out the lead screw, and gib on this axis?

      Yes I know the costs, and I only think about the replacement as its not particularly difficult. However I don't want to (at this stage) go to the trouble of changing our the lead screw nuts. Much more work, and I still have to paint the spare room skirting board at some stage.

      So am I nuts, don't all reply at once on this one! I mean is it worth changing out the lead screw and or gib or both considering the table ways are worn, but more to the point without also changing the axis nut? Would I be hissing in the wind?

      Anyone done this before?, not the hissing in the wind!. If so do you think it was worth it?, or should I leave well alone until I can muster up the effort to change the lead screw nuts as well?

      Finally at last you cry. Finally; has anyone had experience with new Bridgeport gibs that they might be prepared to share? I assume that they are a straight swap and come complete with oil ways and grooves already machined? Or would I have more work than I bargained for making them fit and usable?

      Waiting patiently for your comments, if I haven't put you to sleep with my little story,zzzzzzzzzzz

      Much appreciated

      Gary

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      #8954
      Absolute Beginner
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        @absolutebeginner

        Following on from table wobble!

        #325053
        Chris Evans 6
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          @chrisevans6

          With the results you have obtained you appear to have a good useable machine, work it for a few years then make up your mind if you think it requires parts changing. I have had several brand new Bridgeports to operate and all quickly got close to the condition you describe. Adjust so you can use it then ease the gibs/screws as required on the very odd occasion you have a job on that needs the sort of movement. Don't consider fitting new lead screws without at least chasing the nuts out you will only promote premature wear on the new screw.

          #325055
          Anonymous

            I've no idea what the table wobble on my Bridgeport is, as I've never measured it. The backlash, going on the dials, must be on the order of 15-20 thou on both X and Y. Personally I don't care, it doesn't stop me making good parts, I do have a DRO though. I'm time poor so I'd rather make parts than fix stuff that doesn't need fixing.

            The items I have had to fix on the Bridgeport over the years are:

            Quill return spring – it broke

            Varispeed belt – I've had two break

            Quill feed direction knob – I broke it by pushing in the wrong place embarrassed

            Two coolant pumps – very odd as 3-phase motors are pretty bomb proof

            I've also had to clean the commutator on the DC feed motor and I had a contactor failure, which I "fixed" by bypassing the offending contact.

            Andrew

            #325180
            Howard Lewis
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              @howardlewis46836

              I'd be happy with less than 5 thou backlash on the leadscrews of any machine.

              Sounds like you'e got a good 'un.

              Don't get obsessed with ABSOLUTE accuracy, just be aware of the backlash. Even 5 thou will be a problem if you climb mill, unless you use the locks to brake movement of the table. (Industrial machines have backlash preventers built in for that reason.

              Teaching granny to suck eggs, if you overshoot when setting, back off half a turn and then return again, more slowly, to where you want be, to take out the backlash.

              Howard

              #325182
              Hopper
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                @hopper

                In a nutshell: No.

                #325183
                Muzzer
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                  @muzzer

                  Cryptic!

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