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    Michael Callaghan
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      @michaelcallaghan68621

      Hi, I am trying to fire up a Columbia locomotive. Now this as a large boiler and a large grate area. I have tried starting off with a mix of white spirit wood and charcoal. This starts to get some heat into the boiler but just not enough to get the smokeless anthracite firing. I live in England so can’t purchase house coal anymore.

      how are people firing up their boilers and is there something available and better then anthracite I can use between the charcoal and wood. Thanks

      #860060
      Nigel Bennett
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        @nigelbennett69913

        A guy I know was using white spirit and discovered it was a non-flammable variety! I always use paraffin and charcoal to start; I get it really well going, with steam beginning to come up before firing with anthracite. If you try meths on the charcoal instead, be very aware that moving your shovel back to the fuel supply for another round can sometimes begin an unintentional second fire, because the flames from the meths on the shovel aren’t always very visible in bright light…

        #860067
        Michael Callaghan
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          @michaelcallaghan68621

          Thanks Nigel. I will have a try with paraffin if I can get any. I remember years ago making the mistake of of putting a shovel which was on fire back into my plastic tub coal and then running around like mad trying to put it all out. Fun hobby this.

          #860077
          Nigel Graham 2
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            @nigelgraham2

            Ordinary house coal, no it is not readily available any more, but have you tried the processed “smokeless” coal intended for domestic fires?

            Anthracite is not the easiest stuff to ignite, and may need at least “priming” with a softer coal.

            #860080
            Stuart Smith 5
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              @stuartsmith5

              At my club everyone uses charcoal soaked in paraffin. I haven’t heard of any problems. Using a 12v fan on the chimney initially to create a draught.

              Then anthracite.

              #860095
              noel shelley
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                @noelshelley55608

                You are using a blower to get things going well ? I use white spirit charcoal and sticks and buy the coal from signal fuels. The charcoal lives in a glass jar and will have been soaking for weeks in white spirit. Paraffin or diesel will work. Noel.

                #860098
                Paul Lousick
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                  @paullousick59116

                  Are you using a blower or chimney extension to increase the draft of air when starting your fire ?

                  #860109
                  Michael Callaghan
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                    @michaelcallaghan68621

                    Hi, yes I am using a fan.after reading further information it looks like the beans I am trying to use only fire at a higher temperature then I can get at using white spirit. Dam this coal ban. So I am off to get some paraffin and try other type of fuel. Will get back with results.

                    #860151
                    Clive Brown 1
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                      @clivebrown1

                      Welsh steam coal in small quantities / sizes for models is listed on Ebay. It’s a bit pricy for what it is but it might help you get a good fire going. Could be mixed with anthracite beans for running perhaps.

                      #860182
                      Chris Gunn
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                        @chrisgunn36534

                        Michael, you can still get house/steam coal, the steam rally organisers can get it, as can the steam railways, but domestic users cannot. Consider asking your U3A if any members want their old coal bunkers emptying, or go on the scrounge to your nearest steam railway, you will not need a lot. I would forget about the smokeless briquettes, I did not get on very well with them.

                        Chris Gunn

                        #860192
                        Michael Callaghan
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                          @michaelcallaghan68621

                          Hi Chris, I tried all that, the little coal stock held is now looked on like gold. I have been able to order a few bags of polish steam coal which should be delivered next week. It is said to be good in model locomotives. Time will tell

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