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    Peter Simpson 3
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      I need to drill out some worn threads in aluminum, then insert an oversized blank. I will then retap the treads back on to the blank. The blank will need gluing into position before drilling and tapping. Tap size is M4 the blank is 6mm diameter. What is best adhesive for the job? There is very little load on the threads

      #837868
      Clive Foster
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        @clivefoster55965

        I find high strength loctite satisfactory for such jobs, the green bearing retainer stuff ‘cos I have it in stock.

        As far as I know none that I’ve done, both for myself and other folk, have failed.

        Where possible I like to leave a small plain rim on the bush screwing down into a matching counterbore. Bit more gluing area and I like to think that positive location from the top is more secure than simply running down a threaded hole. Figure there is reason why Timesert thread repair inserts are made that way.

        Clive

        #837871
        not done it yet
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          @notdoneityet

          If you can thread the over-sized hole, a threaded insert would need just a dash of loctite-anything to secure it.

          #837874
          Andrew Entwistle
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            @andrewentwistle

            +1 for Loctite 638 or similar for this job

            #837877
            bernard towers
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              @bernardtowers37738

              I’m with NDIY

              #837978
              James A
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                @jamesalford67616

                I had a similar problem with a thin web on a motorbike crankcase. I drilled out the original thread and made an insert of exactly the same size as the hole. I roughened the outer surface of the insert (I have no knurling tool) and warmed the case enough to expand the hole for the insert to fit. I coated it with Loctite and pressed the insert in.

                It is still holding firmly after several years.

                James.

                #837979
                DC31k
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                  @dc31k
                  On not done it yet Said:

                  If you can thread the over-sized hole, a threaded insert…

                  In the situation described, the insert is 6mm dia., so presumably M6 thread and 5mm tapping drill. The other component has an M4 thread. That leaves a 0.5mm wall thickness.

                  Using M6 x 0.5 thread on the insert improves the situation. Using loctite and no thread at all improves it further.

                  #837983
                  noel shelley
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                    @noelshelley55608

                    A rivnut is available and can be set by squeezing in a vice if no other tools are available.  Rivnuta are made in numerous metals to suit the job.   Noel.

                    #837992
                    Macolm
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                      @macolm

                      Wire thread inserts are another repair possibility if the worn hole is not too bad. A good indication is that there remains a slight witness of the original thread. Of course you need to buy or borrow the kit. The resultant threads are accurate, strong, and very durable if made of hard drawn stainless wire. Another benefit is that this needs the the least diameter increase for the repair.

                      #837999
                      Phil super7
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                        @philsuper7

                        I would suggest using a helicoil these are made for such a job

                        #838049
                        Nigel Graham 2
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                          @nigelgraham2

                          Phil – that’s what Malcolm suggests, “Helicoil” being simply a brand.

                          Be careful though if the finished work has to withstand corrosive conditions such as damp ground or salty water. Stainless steel in intimate contact with aluminium can result in the aluminum disappearing while the insert stays pristine.

                          Even mild-steel can have similar effects.

                           

                          (I’ve sometimes wondered this in the case of miniature ground-level railways using aluminium rail and steel, especially stainless-steel, fishplate bolts.)

                          #838063
                          Macolm
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                            @macolm

                            Well yes, if conditions are seriously corrosive, the screws will also need carefull selection.

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