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    Vic
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      @vic

      Have any of you successfully removed screws like this without damaging the surrounding material? It’s a Belkin six way extension that I’d like to fit a slightly longer cable to.

      Hard to photograph, but they can be screwed in with a standard slotted screwdriver, but can’t be removed due to the shape of the head.

      IMG_6649

      #827345
      Vic
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        @vic

        This is the type.

        IMG_6652

        #827346
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          You can sometimes drive them round with a sharp dot punch at the bottom of the ramped part

          #827349
          bernard towers
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            @bernardtowers37738

            I have used a standard slot bit and set the cordless onto screwdriver low torque so it vibrates, sometimes ok but not always.

            #827351
            Andrew Tinsley
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              @andrewtinsley63637

              I have had this problem, the solution is simple. Silver solder a U shaped piece of steel onto a standard screwdriver. I have plenty of old screwdrivers and this solves the problem.

              I have a large range of security bits, but the manufacturers who make them don’t seem to have got round to this new type yet. I am sure they will be available soon!

              Andrew

              #827352
              Fulmen
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                @fulmen

                You could try to cut the groove a tad deeper with a Dremel.

                #827359
                peter1972
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                  @peter1972

                  Drill a small hole in each of the two flat areas of the screw head, preferably using a small centre drill. Insert circlip pliers, two thin masonry nails or two thin silver steel rod into the holes.

                  Alternatively, use an inline junction box such as this example:
                  https://www.screwfix.com/p/debox-16a-2sl-in-line-junction-box-50-x-29-x-97mm-white/9858R?tc=MT1

                  #827360
                  Trevor Drabble 1
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                    @trevordrabble1

                    Vic , As is frequently the case with this or similar screws , are these screws hardened and do you have any new replacements ?

                    #827366
                    Trevor Drabble 1
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                      @trevordrabble1

                      Also , try searching Clutch Head Removal Tool , and example of which is the CTA Tools 8752 4 piece set on Amazon

                      #827381
                      Vic
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                        @vic
                        #827382
                        Vic
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                          @vic
                          #827384
                          Vic
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                            @vic

                            I’ve found this set which looks promising. Not cheap though.

                            https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ryobi-One-Way-Remover-Installer-3-Piece/dp/B00Q6GRWYE

                            #827386
                            Trevor Drabble 1
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                              @trevordrabble1

                              Vic , Yes , that’s one of the ones I spotted too . Do you have a reversing impact driver to use them with ? I have a kitchen fitters Makita one which I find very useful for removing screws which I could not otherwise easily remove by other methods.

                              #827389
                              Vic
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                                @vic

                                The one I linked earlier won’t work for me if it requires the collar. If you look at the image in my OP you can see the screws are recessed. The screw heads themselves are quite small, only about 5mm across.

                                #827391
                                SillyOldDuffer
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                                  @sillyoldduffer
                                  #827393
                                  Ian P
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                                    @ianp

                                    I was going to suggest a LH drill, better though would be a LH endmill (Clamp job on drilling machine, after centering up, then HAND rotate cutter whilst applying firm pressure with the quill, screw should back out.

                                    actually a screwdriver shaped blade (with sharp edges) might work.

                                    Another method is to get the screw hot to soften the grip in the substrate using a soldering iron or just repeated applications of say gas ring heated old screwdriver, then use sharp blade as above.

                                    Ian P

                                     

                                    #827394
                                    Macolm
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                                      @macolm

                                      Not had occasion to try this. Hardened steel is easily drilled with PCB carbide micro drill bits in a Dremel (get a set from an Ebay vendor), and with care there is little risk of breaking the bit. Drill two opposite holes of a size so that short bits of MIG wire are a close fit and use an ordinary screwdriver across them, or snipe nose pliers, or make a pin tool. Ingenuity needed, but seems promising to me.

                                      #827403
                                      Vic
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                                        @vic
                                        #827405
                                        Vic
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                                          @vic

                                          I’ve ordered a set of screw extractors. Hopefully the smallest size will be suitable to get these six screws out?

                                          #827412
                                          Grindstone Cowboy
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                                            @grindstonecowboy

                                            Grind a screwdriver so the end has nice sharp edges, and apply a lot of downward pressure. Turn slowly. Better than even chance it’ll bite into the screw enough to loosen it.

                                            Rob

                                            #827428
                                            David George 1
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                                              @davidgeorge1

                                              How about cutting off the plug and jointing a new length of cable on. You can get good connectors even waterproof as well.

                                              David

                                              #827430
                                              Michael Gilligan
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                                                @michaelgilligan61133

                                                When I was a lad, and my Dad worked at GKN … This style of head was colloquially known as a ‘Gaol-Door Screw’

                                                Hopefully the ones that Belkin use are not that good 🙂

                                                MichaelG.

                                                #827432
                                                Robert Atkinson 2
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                                                  @robertatkinson2

                                                  This is a non-rewireable extension lead. By law in the UK they are designed to be non openable. Even if you get it open there is likey no way to connect a new cable in a manner the retains the safety and relibility of the original. It should not be re-wired

                                                  Why not fit an IEC 60320 C14 “kettle” / “PC” male connector to the existing lead and use a standard C13 power lead plugged into that?  There are also ready made C13/C14 leads that can be used as  extensions. Depending on the lead used this could reduce the maximum load to 5A but thai is not an issue for IT type equiment.

                                                  Robert.

                                                  #827436
                                                  Vic
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                                                    @vic
                                                    #827445
                                                    Howi
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                                                      @howi

                                                      All this fuss for an extension lead, there is a reason they put tamper proof screws in, why not just plug it into another (longer extension lead?

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