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Buying cheap and buying twice is a good old adage, but I ought to know what cheap is for lathe tools first. I have heard of some good names like Starret, and awful like Sealy.
The Sherline chucks look pretty good, you can have one built to spec.
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Getting there!
Being cheap and buying twice is dubious advice, so don’t take this old saw too seriously! It dates from a time when good tools were expensive, and times have changed. Modern manufacturing focusses on value for money and fit for purpose, not the best irrespective of cost. Plenty of mid-range tools about: not industrial grade, but plenty good enough for moderate use, and cheap enough to replace when they wear out.
Excellent ways of wasting money include:
- Buying by brand-name only to discover you’re paying for the label,
- Buying brand-name only to find that the original company went bust in 1968, and that the current owner does not meet the original spec. The quality justifies the brand, not the other way round.
- Buying second-hand without checking condition. Condition depends on history, not how good it was when new.
- Expecting top-end tools to improve ordinary or worn lathes. A C0 isn’t top-end, it is what it is. Kitting one out with expensive accessories like hand-built chucks is questionable! The C0 isn’t a good place to start if you really need the best. They work well enough with affordable accessories. They’re a bit clunky for clockmaking, and a tad small for general purpose, but do a good job between those sectors. A couple of model railway friends had them – small, clean and quiet enough to use in the house.
- Expensive tools often pay for themselves by saving time, But a skilled machinist can get equivalent results from lesser tooling, it just takes longer. Are you a commercial organisation working against the clock, or a hobbyist developing skills? If the latter, buy mid range.
- The relative cost of tools has dropped enormously, so it’s not the end of the world if stuff has to be replaced.
- Expensive tools may last longer than you. How long do you expect to live?
- Seeing tools as an investment could be a bad mistake. When the time comes, the workshop might end up in a skip, or be bought as house-clearance…
- Not buying tools to fulfil a particular need. Might have chosen the wrong lathe, in which case unwise to rush to buy all the accessories! The other approach is to buy when needed, which also derisks accidentally ordering a lorry-load of stuff that doesn’t fit. Far better to think about the requirement and buy tools that meet it. Don’t mindlessly follow internet advice, or that from chaps who might have completely different needs, be out-of-date, or a racist! It’s your money that will be wasted, not theirs.
- Wanting rather than needing. (Not forbidden because it’s a hobby!)
- Feeling good because it’s “reassuringly expensive”.
I’ve often ignored the “buy cheap, buy twice” warning and never regretted it. Using a pair of pliers bought 57 years ago at the moment, despite an elderly man insisting they wouldn’t last. He was wrong!. Though he meant well, repeating time-expired dogma isn’t good advice. Unless you have an unlimited budget. I prefer to think.
Most of us have a budget though. The lathe and accessories are the tip of an iceberg. You have to spend money on materials and consumables, and metal ain’t cheap! What will the C0 be used for? Plenty of good advice here if you have a particular interest. We can explain the various work-holding options, and which type of chuck(s) best meet your needs. Then you can spend wisely.
Newcomers are often keen to be told of particular brands and suppliers providing top quality at knock-down prices. Not that simple. Reality is there are “too cheap” tools about, so be wary of ‘bargains’ from fly by night outfits! You can also buy from industrial suppliers, which I do occasionally, but make sure your pacemaker has a new battery – buying fully specified tools is pricey. I mostly buy mid-range because they’re good enough for what I do, and only pay more if need be. A £200 digital caliper is delightfully smooth, and the batteries last longer, but used with care, £6 supermarket cheapies are as accurate, and less upsetting when they get broken!
Sadly we’ve just lost ArcEuro, whose owner did a particularly good job importing hobby suitable Far Eastern tools and supporting customers if anything went wrong. In my view quality is less important than how the supplier will respond if he sells you a lemon! Though ArcEuro got a gold-star, other UK suppliers aren’t bad, I don’t have an avoid list!
I’m assuming you’re in the UK, where consumer protection is strong. Not all countries are equally tough on bad suppliers, so you might have to play by different rules.
Sorry can’t advise on accessories to fit a C0 because I don’t have one. I had the same problem with my mini-lathe; when I replaced it with a bigger machine, I knew what to buy.
Dave