Hello, Alexander master toolmaker

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20 February 2019 at 20:42 #40497
ali hureiby
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20 February 2019 at 20:42 #397230
ali hureiby
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Hello Everyone, This is my first post and want to sharing about my recently bought of milling machine.

Finally, i bought Alexander master toolmaker (serial number 1015) and will be my next restoration.

Anyone here own Alexander products too? If you have, i really want to see the pictures of it,serial number?

Been 5-7 years i'm collecting decent machines for my small workshop plan (upgraded from chinese lathe), right now i have Weiler primus lathe, Myford ML8 (under restoration), Meddings pillar drill, Alexander master toolmaker (next restoration), Emco, Unimat, and a lot of other tools.

About Alexander master toolmaker, i will do start restoration process in the next 2-3 mnths, I have several question about this milling :

{How to know manufacturing date on Alexander ?.}

{What does this mean PG/1.M.20.P.A on GHA badge? it's the same badge with serial number info.}

{Is this imperial ? rather than metric from deckel FP1, what is the pitch of 4 feet screws that hold the machine.}

{Anyone know more history information of it? i know Alexander was Deckel dealer in UK, do they produce under deckel license?}

I got Alexander manual from this site :

[url]http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=16604[/url]

it's 29 pages, Has anyone own other manual version? would lovely to know it.

regards
21 February 2019 at 07:52 #397274
David George 1
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Hi Ali Have you looked at http://www.lathes.co.uk I used one of these about 50 years ago very versatile but a pain to set up accurately.

David
21 February 2019 at 08:23 #397278
S.D.L.
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Posted by David George 1 on 21/02/2019 07:52:25:

Hi Ali Have you looked at http://www.lathes.co.uk I used one of these about 50 years ago very versatile but a pain to set up accurately.

David

Why were they a pain to set up.

Interested as I fancy something of that design style

Steve
21 February 2019 at 08:58 #397279
Chris Evans 6
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I to used one during my apprenticeship as well as the machines shown for mould making in the brochure.

Yes they where a pain and long winded to set up and get all the moveable parts running true to the plane you where setting. Genuine Deckel wasn't a lot better.
21 February 2019 at 09:53 #397282
vintage engineer
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I have one too. I was told that the designer was a jew who fled Germany with the design during the war. I have a vertical and the over arm for horizontal milling and it can shift a lot of material in this mode. I also have a slotting head from a another copy of the Deckel. I am looking for a tilting table and a dividing head. I did manage to buy a complete set of fed gears from a chap in Rugely who made them in batches.
21 February 2019 at 10:44 #397289
Vic
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They have one where I used to work, very nice machine.
21 February 2019 at 12:03 #397307
ali hureiby
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Posted by David George 1 on 21/02/2019 07:52:25:

Hi Ali Have you looked at http://www.lathes.co.uk I used one of these about 50 years ago very versatile but a pain to set up accurately.

David

Yes, already check from tony website, that's great info.
I think it will be intresting to combine with modern technology such as DRO.
21 February 2019 at 12:08 #397308
ali hureiby
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Posted by Chris Evans 6 on 21/02/2019 08:58:43:

I to used one during my apprenticeship as well as the machines shown for mould making in the brochure.

Yes they where a pain and long winded to set up and get all the moveable parts running true to the plane you where setting. Genuine Deckel wasn't a lot better.

That 3 machines in Alexander brochure seem to be luxury machine before CNC.
21 February 2019 at 12:16 #397310
ali hureiby
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Posted by vintage engineer on 21/02/2019 09:53:51:

I have one too. I was told that the designer was a jew who fled Germany with the design during the war. I have a vertical and the over arm for horizontal milling and it can shift a lot of material in this mode. I also have a slotting head from a another copy of the Deckel. I am looking for a tilting table and a dividing head. I did manage to buy a complete set of fed gears from a chap in Rugely who made them in batches.

There's many story i heard from multiple forum, First Alexander was making them under Deckel license, second there's Deckel engineer that help Alexander built it, and that's new story about jew i hear from you.

What is your serial number? Do you post pictures about your Alexander somewhere that i can take a look maybe?
What is the pitch of 4 foot screw that hold the machine? I live & raised in metric world, so it will be challenging for me to do restoration.

Regards
21 February 2019 at 13:22 #397317
Phil P
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I am fairly sure the " PG/1.M.20.P.A " refers to the change gears for the feed. ie 1 MOD x 20° pressure angle.

I have the same machine myself by the way, you will not be disappointed, I have yet to find a job that I cannot do on mine.

Phil
21 February 2019 at 19:59 #397372
vintage engineer
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Mine is model number 1489. & PGIE 20degree PA
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