Device for cutting very fine screw threads

Device for cutting very fine screw threads

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    Michael Gilligan
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      A sublimely ambiguous title for a patent !

      … But coming from Hilger & Watts we can be reasonably sure that the threads would be both ‘very fine’ and ‘very fine’

      Enjoy: **LINK**

      https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search?q=pn%3DUS2717401A

      MichaelG.

      #3995
      Michael Gilligan
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        @michaelgilligan61133
        #630361
        old mart
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          @oldmart

          Difficult to understand, but it looks to me that differential threads are involved to get the super fine pitches.

          #630365
          Michael Gilligan
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            @michaelgilligan61133
            Posted by old mart on 20/01/2023 20:42:01:

            Difficult to understand […]

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            Yes, I’m sure it all made perfect sense to them … whilst they were dictating to some innocent typist surprise

            MichaelG.

            #630367
            old mart
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              @oldmart

              To get 100tpi,you only need 20 and 25 tpi threads working against each other.

              #630371
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133

                Yes but … did you notice the number in the opening lines

                MichaelG.

                #630375
                old mart
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                  @oldmart

                  No, you have lost me there. Perhaps it would have been better to read "a device for cutting very fine pitch screw threads".

                  Edited By old mart on 20/01/2023 21:37:18

                  #630377
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133

                    [ deleted … wrong image ]

                    Edited By Michael Gilligan on 20/01/2023 21:46:03

                    #630380
                    Michael Gilligan
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                      @michaelgilligan61133
                      Posted by old mart on 20/01/2023 21:35:17:

                      No, you have lost me there.

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                      #630390
                      duncan webster 1
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                        15000 turns per inch isn't a thread it's a surface finish. My starting point for plain turning is 0.004" per rev feed, historical because that's the slowest I could set up on my first lathe. This is 250 turns per rev.

                        Edited By duncan webster on 20/01/2023 23:20:32

                        #630396
                        Martin Connelly
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                          @martinconnelly55370

                          I have not read the patent beyond what is in the image above but I think the idea is to produce a movement 1/15000" per revolution of a knob or shaft which is equivalent to a very fine pitch screw but is not a physical very fine pitch screw. Easily achieved with differential pitches.

                          Martin C

                          #630400
                          Ady1
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                            @ady1

                            So its a gearbox?

                            for slow speed

                            #630424
                            Roger Hart
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                              @rogerhart88496

                              This reminded me of a Sci Am article – Vol 232 no 4 April 1975 in their Amateur Scientist section. Described a grating ruling engine built by Brian Manning for ruling interferometer gratings.

                              The screw pitch problem was addressed by a fine pitch screw of sane tpi driven by a small motor/gearbox with a feedback system controlled by a small interferometer looking at the exact number of wavelengths moved at each step. Used a photomultiplier and a homebrew discharge lamp.

                              All mounted in a big cast iron box to control temperature etc. This chap even evaporation coated in aluminium his own glass plates and made the diamond cutting tool to make the grooves.

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                              Michael Gilligan
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                                @michaelgilligan61133
                                Posted by Martin Connelly on 21/01/2023 00:35:39:

                                I have not read the patent beyond what is in the image above but I think the idea is to produce a movement 1/15000" per revolution of a knob or shaft which is equivalent to a very fine pitch screw but is not a physical very fine pitch screw. Easily achieved with differential pitches.

                                Martin C

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                                Then [assuming you are interested] I suggest you do read the patent.

                                MichaelG.

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