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  • #400789
    AdrianR
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      @adrianr18614

      I know this has been discussed before but that was nearly two years ago.

      Who would you recommend for workshop insurance?

      I see Walker Midgley Insurance Brokers are on the trade list for Doncaster, they any good?

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      #26493
      AdrianR
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        @adrianr18614
        #400790
        Former Member
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          @formermember19781

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          #400793
          Simon Williams 3
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            @simonwilliams3

            I've gone over to NFU Mutual, on the basis that their workshop insurance actually expects you to have tools and welders and chainsaws etc in your workshop, unlike a nasty experience with one of the major high street brands.

            Usual disclaimer applies, and no I'd better not name the "other brand".

            HTH Simon

            #400794
            AdrianR
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              @adrianr18614

              I should have said, it is in a standalone building in the garden.

              #400796
              Former Member
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                @formermember19781

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                #400803
                Anonymous

                  I'd be very wary about relying on normal home insurance to cover workshops, built-in or otherwise. My double garage is attached to the house and is linked into the alarm, but it still isn't covered. Way back my home insurance only covered £2k in garages to cover the sort of thing most people have like lawnmowers and DIY power tools. When I asked about cover for other items like a lathe and mill all I got was a silence, and then a no we don't cover. In other words they had no idea what they were and it's easiest to say no.

                  I have a friend on another forum who confidently told me that his detached, but brick built, garage and workshop was covered by his holdhold insurance up to £30k. A couple of years later he sheepishly told me his wife had made some comment when renewing, and the insurance company had said nothing was covered, and never had been.

                  My workshop machines, tooling, part built engines and materials are covered by Walter Midgeley. They're by no means cheap, but they seem to be only player in town. A couple of years back when I thought about changing I couldn't find anyone else other than a few one man and his dog brokers who all led back to WM..

                  Andrew

                  #400804
                  Tony Pratt 1
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                    @tonypratt1

                    You need to speak to an insurance broker on this issue, they will advise your best options, online compare sites won't cut it.

                    As said previously it won't be the cheapest but if you have an incident you want proper cover

                    Tony

                    #400808
                    JohnF
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                      @johnf59703

                      I have just renewed our house insurance this month and changed to a different company due to rising cost of the previous outfit, ended up with the Halifax and made it very clear regarding workshop items and sporting firearms and assured all are covered. Workshop is within the house building but with a separate entrance all alarmed with a fully monitored system plus physical deterrents as well. Usual disclaimers but found them very efficient and helpful.

                      John

                      #400813
                      Anonymous
                        Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 17/03/2019 12:09:47:

                        …………………..online compare sites won't cut it.

                        I don't use comparison sites; they're worse than useless, and some cases plain dishonest. Every time I look they select energy deals that are worse than I've already got. Or give me a price for a hotel that is above what I get simply by ringing the hotel to book.

                        Andrew

                        #400814
                        Anonymous
                          Posted by JohnF on 17/03/2019 12:42:18:

                          I have just renewed our house insurance this month and changed to a different company due to rising cost of the previous outfit………….

                          After changing insurance company every year (household and car) I started putting all the details back into the current insurers website, getting a cheaper price. Then I called and insisted they matched the price, which they do. I did the same with household and car insurance for my mum a few months ago.

                          When I renewed my own insurance last month I did the above and got the standard 20% or so off the car insurance. But the household insurance online quote was more expensive, instead of the 40% or so I normally get off – very odd. I also got an email reminder for my aircraft insurance, with a long spiel about how the number of insurers had declined, equals more expensive insurance. But the quote was comfortably less than last year! Even odder.

                          Andrew

                          #400815
                          Steambuff
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                            @steambuff
                            Posted by Bill Chugg on 17/03/2019 10:43:34:

                            If the workshop is within the boundaries of your property then it will be covered under your buildings insurance. The contents, if not used for professional purposes, will be covered under contents insurance. There may be limits to your contents cover but 'All risks' insurance is available for high value items.

                            Bill not strictly true …. I would recommend that you should check and verify … My Buildings/Contents insurance EXCLUDES Garage contents (even integral) AND Sheds and their contents (This would apply to a standalone workshop)

                            Dave

                            #400824
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                              @formermember19781

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                              #400835
                              Harry Wilkes
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                                @harrywilkes58467

                                Adrian I with WM as they insure out building Ive not compared their prices as I have my engine with them too so one payment per year covers both wink

                                H

                                #400837
                                Jon
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                                  @jon

                                  Check the small print, anything insurance companies can get away with they will.

                                  Generally theres in excess of £30k in equipment and tools and dont want to hear the price they would command.
                                  Business insurance even worse going back 9 years, couldnt find any that would undertake when mentioned revolving machinery.

                                  #400843
                                  mechman48
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                                    @mechman48

                                    I have asked my Ins.Co. about my converted 'hobby shop' & they have stated that as it is an attached 'garage' but not fitted with an internal access door it is classed as an outbuilding & would only be covered as such to the tune of £2500, but for an extra 'Premium plan' cover payment this increases to £5000,this, as many members will know that would not cover replacement value of Lathe or/& mill alone, never mind all the extra's in there, needless to say I paid the 'premium cover' rate.

                                    I have enquired with WM & they quoted me, at time of asking, £70 per annum, value up to £10K, but that was a couple of years ago. I'm not sure how you would stand with your present insurer with extra cover from a 3rd party insurer, anyone is / has been in this scenario?.

                                    George.

                                    #400845
                                    KWIL
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                                      @kwil

                                      I had the same problem when my then insurer would not seriously increase the valuation of the workshop contents. "They did not cover such items", strange really when they provide the insurance cover WM sell!!

                                      So I went to Hiscox, no problems at all and no limitation on the sums insured.

                                      Edited By KWIL on 17/03/2019 16:51:55

                                      #400849
                                      Ian Skeldon 2
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                                        @ianskeldon2

                                        Do WM have a website? I have googled and come up with only one address that is actually Walker Midgely and that returns a bad page??

                                        #400851
                                        AdrianR
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                                          @adrianr18614

                                          Thanks for the replies guys, I will try WM and NFU. I live out in the sticks and have a NFU office in the local town. The local farmer says the rep is very helpful.

                                          My own experience of insurance is that it is a racket. Only time I tried to claim on house insurance was for a lost watch they accused me of lying and refused to pay. Needless to say my view is it is a waste of money, but I am not brave enough to not insure.

                                          #400853
                                          Samsaranda
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                                            @samsaranda

                                            Have been with WM for a number of years and I acknowledge they are not cheap but unlike most insurers their premiums do not increase by huge amounts each year. Their policy is very comprehensive and you are left in no doubt as to what is covered, unlike the usual woolly small print generally found with insurance policies.

                                            Dave W

                                            #400869
                                            SillyOldDuffer
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                                              @sillyoldduffer
                                              Posted by AdrianR on 17/03/2019 17:02:12:

                                              My own experience of insurance is that it is a racket. Only time I tried to claim on house insurance was for a lost watch they accused me of lying and refused to pay. Needless to say my view is it is a waste of money, but I am not brave enough to not insure.

                                              I fear a few posts have shown a touching innocence when it comes to cover: you always have to read the policy! I wouldn't go so far as to claim insurance is a racket, but it's certainly a hard-nosed business rather than cuddly Meerkats organised to hand out money.

                                              One common booby trap is the need for claimants to prove that the items existed and to demonstrate their actual value. As a proportion of claims are false most assessors require proof that claims are justified. For all they know your workshop never existed, or you sold it at a car-boot sale to pay for Smack. And even if you can prove ownership they tend not to value elderly equipment as highly as enthusiasts! Wishfully vague suggestions may be rejected outright. It's a good idea to keep records – photographs, notes and receipts.

                                              Dave

                                              #400870
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                                                @formermember19781

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                                                #400874
                                                Chris Gunn
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                                                  @chrisgunn36534

                                                  Plus one for the NFU, my local office is very helpful, I made a list of all my stuff, and my estimate of what it would cost to replace, it is surprising how it adds up. Don't forget your completed and part completed models, they add up as well. Preparing a list and giving the insurance a copy before you sign up is a great help if you need to make a claim. The price comparison sites do not cater for folks like us.

                                                  Chris Gunn

                                                  #400879
                                                  Harry Wilkes
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                                                    @harrywilkes58467
                                                    Posted by Ian Skeldon 2 on 17/03/2019 16:59:41:

                                                    Do WM have a website? I have googled and come up with only one address that is actually Walker Midgely and that returns a bad page??

                                                    Yes link

                                                    H

                                                    #400886
                                                    Stueeee
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                                                      @stueeee

                                                      +1 for the importance of having proof regarding your tools and equipment if need to make a claim. My workshop was burgled several years ago. The scrotes stole a lot of my Snap-On spanners, sockets etc. I had bought these 30+ years ago when I was "hands on" at work. Even when told this, the insurance company requested receipts for all the tools or they weren't going to pay out. Unluckily for them I had previously taken a high definition photo of each open drawer in my tool cabinet, so they did replace all the tools which were stolen.

                                                      This insurance company (who I had been with for 12 or so years) pretty much added the claim amount to my renewal; this seemed to be more than taking the mickey to me. So in searching for another provider, I got to read a lot of small print as regards levels cover for the contents of outbuildings; quite a few limit outbuildings cover to £1000, which wouldn't cover my garden tractor let alone any tools and equipment.

                                                      I'm with Intelligent Insurance at the moment, my brother, who has much the same workshop kit is with Hiscox, neither of these companies are cheap, but a cheap policy could turn out to be an expensive but essentially worthless piece of paper IMO.

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