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Has this Adept shaper been repaired?

This topic has 8 replies, 7 voices, and was last updated 1 December 2018 at 14:02 by Neil Wyatt.

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30 November 2018 at 21:09 #383112
not done it yet
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Question: 4th pic looks as though a welded repair has been undertaken (look at the rear of the casting). What do you think?

Seller insists it has no repair and seemingly hopes to emulate the recent selling price of a machine that most certainly looked in good order

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Edited By not done it yet on 30/11/2018 21:12:25
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30 November 2018 at 21:09 #13359
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Adept No.2 for sale – advice on pics
30 November 2018 at 21:35 #383118
IanT
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@iant
Hard to tell NDIY – there does seem to be something slightly different (to mine) to the front of the handle pivot – but it could be the original casting – I guess patterns did get repaired or altered slightly over time. One clear difference is that the down feed is graduated – which I've not seen before.

I have to say though that this is really silly money for a manual Adept – even at the lower price. I do like my little Adept but it's not worth this much – and frankly I think you will be disappointed if you pay over the odds for it. What uses do you have in mind for it – given (I assume) that you have a small mill already?

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IanT
30 November 2018 at 21:39 #383119
Mike Crossfield
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I have one of these machines myself, and the one for sale looks very similar. I can’t see anything odd in the 4th photo. The only differences from my machine that I can see are the engraving on the handwheels (mine are blank), and the toolholder, which is not standard. There is useful info, and pictures, at http://www.lathes.co.uk.
30 November 2018 at 21:59 #383124
Gordon A
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@gordona
Can't see any sign of repair in the photo's, but the castings on mine are also a little rough. Doesn't detract from the fine finish that can be achieved with these little machines though. Paid less than £100 for mine, but that was a while ago. Keep meaning to come up with some means to enable self-act as the operation is a 2 handed job otherwise. The toolpost shown is a special to enable internal keyway cutting, but a standard toolpost is easy enough to make.

Gordon.
1 December 2018 at 06:56 #383136
Ady1
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Got one years ago, as mentioned it's pretty silly money for what you get

Converting it into a small power shaper could be a worthwhile project, they are solid little lumps

edit: cant see any casting issues

Edited By Ady1 on 01/12/2018 06:58:03
1 December 2018 at 08:16 #383142
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I was looking at part of the fourth pic from the left. If you look at an enlarged view of the horizontal ‘line’ to the left of the handle, about a third of the way up the pic, it looks like a weld, not a smooth casting

It just does not look like a continuous casting like the pics of other Adepts. Particularly at the left end, where it looks like a possible welding puddle before the actual end of what should be a single casting.

I’m not going to bid, for certain – as I already have the Alexander and Drummond. A recent sale of the factory motorised version of this shaper, in good working order, recently sold for £250, which the vendor accepted gleefully (I have since spoken with the fellow who sold it).

It just looks like a repaired machine to me. I would not like to see someone duped into buying a machine at the buy-it-now price he has posted (especially if it is repaired, so not original) clearly on the back of the recent sale price achieved for an Adept No.2 which was only due to an obvious bidding war between two people.
1 December 2018 at 08:38 #383146
Michael Gilligan
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Posted by not done it yet on 01/12/2018 08:16:01:

I was looking at part of the fourth pic from the left. If you look at an enlarged view of the horizontal ‘line’ to the left of the handle, about a third of the way up the pic, it looks like a weld, not a smooth casting

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… I am reminded of the movie "Blow Up"

Honestly: I think the low resolution of that picture, together with the strong highlights, makes it impossible to do more than speculate.

MichaelG.

[with apologies for the inevitable pun]
1 December 2018 at 14:02 #383190
Neil Wyatt
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To speculate, I think that's a reflection

[with apologies for the inevitable pun]

They are nice, but it won't get huge use. Worth having for those odd tasks a shaper excels at like special dovetails or keyways.

I paid £20 for mine, but had to fork out £30 for a suitable angle plate.

Neil
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