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    Salij H
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      @salijh

      Feedscrew

      #188230
      Salij H
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        @salijh

        the feedscrew of the carriage ass.on my ML7 lath has an adjustable scale.But when I turn the feedscrew the scale sometimes don't move sothat it is unreliable to use. Who can give me a solution or has a drawing to see the working.

        #188304
        Tim Stevens
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          @timstevens64731

          There are three 'feedscrews' on a standard ML7. The long one under the edge of the apron, running the length of the machine, doesn't have a scale as standard, but there is an extra calibrated round handle at the tailstock end. The other two are on the cross slide for the toolpost, and on the toolpost slide itself. Both have a standard bevel scale, but fixed. So, it may be that your ML7 has been modified over the years, and it is certain that an adjustable scale is a useful mod to have. So, can you tell us a bit more about the position etc of your problem scale, please?

          The normal scheme for an adjustable scale is to have a spring holding the disc with the calibrations against a disc fixed to the spindle. Friction moves them together, but allows the scale to be zeroed so you can return to a given setting easily. If you take one of them apart, do it inside a polythene bag, and then you won't spend three days looking for the spring…

          Regards

          Tim

          #188455
          Salij H
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            @salijh

            Thanks for your email.

            Enclosed I am sending you a picture from the toolpost
            Separate on that toolpost you see the original bevel scale which gave the problem that it did not move when I turned the feedscrew.
            I made a bigger one sothat it was easier to read the scale. But still I have the problem that it does not always adjust.
            On the front of that bevel scale (or do they call it micrometer dial?) you see part of the fixing nut which is between the scale and the feedscrew handle. I call it fixing nut, but is a round female threaded bush with a flat part on front that goes into the bevel scale. You see on the separate scale the round hole for that.
            Do you mean with spring holding disc that this has to be put between that fixing nut and the bevel scale.
            On the back site of the bevelscale there is a fibre washer.

            #188490
            Steamer1915
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              @steamer1915

              Salij, Is this the kind of screw you have?

              Best regards,

              Steve.ml7 dial.jpg

              #188491
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133
                Posted by Steamer1915 on 03/05/2015 19:05:05:

                Salij, Is this the kind of screw you have?

                .

                Steve,

                I do hope that Salij has the straight version [not like that one of mine]

                MichaelG.

                #188492
                Steamer1915
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                  @steamer1915

                  Yes Michael,

                  Should have given you the credit. Apologies.

                  Steve.

                  #188494
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133

                    No problem at all, Steve

                    MichaelG.

                    #188501
                    Salij H
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                      @salijh

                      This is the one I have. The original scale is left separate. I made a some what bigger one which is easier to read.

                      Henk Salij

                      #188507
                      speelwerk
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                        @speelwerk

                        Henk, to place a photo in a post you first have to upload it to your album. Henk sounds very Dutch so I give it a try; een foto plaatsen in een bericht gaat een beetje omslachtig, je moet dat eerst in je fotoalbum (vind je helemaal bovenaan op deze pagina) hoogladen en daarna kan je die foto pas in je bericht zetten. Niko.

                        #188509
                        Salij H
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                          @salijh

                          image.jpgIndeed I am dutch and live in Ridderkerk in the Netherlands. So I put the picture in my album. Is it now visible. Henk Salij

                          #188510
                          Michael Gilligan
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                            @michaelgilligan61133
                            Posted by Salij H on 03/05/2015 22:22:50:

                            Indeed I am dutch and live in Ridderkerk in the Netherlands. So I put the picture in my album. Is it now visible. Henk Salij

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                            Perfectly visible … Thanks to Niko's quick thinking; and communication at the speed of light !

                            MichaelG.

                            #188511
                            Salij H
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                              @salijh

                              Thanks for this fast reply. I did not know I had to place the picture in an album because it is the first time that I make use of this forum inspite that I have since very long the MEW

                              Henk

                              #188515
                              Tim Stevens
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                                @timstevens64731

                                Sorry, but I can't open your picture.

                                Tim

                                #188516
                                speelwerk
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                                  @speelwerk

                                  The problem is that original this Myford had a fixed dail as in the picture of Steve (or is it MichaelG?), the one you replaced is also not original. Perhaps you can get it working correctly with a bit of tinkering, if not you are most likely best of by buying from Myford UK a "C13, Resettable Dail – Metric 20/253". I myself have no experience with this up-date so do not know if they have the same problem, perhaps other forum members can comment on them. Niko.

                                  Edited By speelwerk on 03/05/2015 23:32:32

                                  #188517
                                  Michael Gilligan
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                                    @michaelgilligan61133
                                    Posted by Tim Stevens on 03/05/2015 23:22:23:

                                    Sorry, but I can't open your picture.

                                    .

                                    Tim,

                                    Try refreshing the page … you may be seeing a cached version of the post.

                                    MichaelG.

                                    #188518
                                    Enough!
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                                      @enough

                                      Henk, the dials on your machine are not original. They look like replacements taken from one of the Far Eastern lathes or mills which are available as spare-parts from some dealers. However, in that case they should consist of a concentric assembly …. an inner hub and the outer, calibrated ring with a "leaf" spring to provide friction between ….. and it doesn't look as if your are like that – but it's hard to tell.

                                      Yours seem to be replacement, fixed dials (like the original) but which are not fixed very well so that they slip. If that is true … well the originals were horrible and the replacements won't be much better. Resettable dials are much to be preferred and can be made from scratch or (as I did) they can be fairly easily adapted from the lathe/mill spare parts referred to before.

                                      #188521
                                      Salij H
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                                        @salijh

                                        Thank you all for your fast contribution. It gave me a lot of thinking and I am going to try some solutions like more friction.

                                        #188555
                                        daveb
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                                          @daveb17630

                                          Drill from the edge to the centre, M3 or 4, tap thread, insert brass pad coil spring and grub screw, adjust for desired friction.

                                          #188561
                                          Salij H
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                                            @salijh

                                            That is a brilliant solution. Thanks for this. I did it immediately and it works! Henk.

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