Pop-up mania

Pop-up mania

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  • #842360
    Mike Hurley
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      @mikehurley60381

      Just grudgingly getting used to Trashverts appearing in the right hand side mixed in with ads relating to engineering / allied subjects that may be of use / interest one day. We now have more of this irritation popping up from the bottom of the screen!

      One this morning was something about toilet paper!

      Just another reason why I visit this once great / useful forum less now than ever.

       

      #842361
      Jim Nic
      Participant
        @jimnic

        I also noted the new advertisng pop up and find it annoying.

        However, this “free” website which I find interesting in general must carry significant costs to produce and maintain  At the moment I accept the advertising to have access to the forum.

        I’m sure I’m not alone in this view.

        Jim

        #842362
        bernard towers
        Participant
          @bernardtowers37738

          Yes very annoying but the price you have to pay

           

          #842364
          Wink Hackman
          Participant
            @winkhackman25989

            You don’t have to put up with irritating popups – I use Firefox with an adblocker add-on and I don’t get any of them.

            #842365
            John Hinkley
            Participant
              @johnhinkley26699

              That might work on a pc, but Firefox on an iPad doesn’t allow add-ons due to Apple restrictions, apparently. Turning on “strict” tracking helps but doesn’t fully prevent them.

              John

               

              #842366
              Nicholas Farr
              Participant
                @nicholasfarr14254

                Hi, while averts are needed, they should relate to the hobby in my opinion, but these pop-ups that keep coming up in the replies at the bottom are getting really annoying, and I think it will put off a lot of people from posting, including myself, please take them off before it destroys the forum altogether. My add blocker doesn’t seem to stop them.

                Regards Nick.

                #842367
                Michael Gilligan
                Participant
                  @michaelgilligan61133
                  On John Hinkley Said:

                  That might work on a pc, but Firefox on an iPad doesn’t allow add-ons due to Apple restrictions, apparently. Turning on “strict” tracking helps but doesn’t fully prevent them.

                  John

                   

                  Try Adblock Plus, John

                  https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/adblock-plus-for-safari-apps/id1028871868

                  MichaelG.

                  #842368
                  John Hinkley
                  Participant
                    @johnhinkley26699

                    Thanks, Michael, I’ll give it a go later, though whether it will work with Firefox or just Safari is a moot point.

                    John

                     

                    #842376
                    Harry Wilkes
                    Participant
                      @harrywilkes58467

                      Brave browser does a good job of keeping ads to a minimum works well for most people on YT as well.

                      H

                      #842378
                      Robert Atkinson 2
                      Participant
                        @robertatkinson2

                        A lot of the pop-ups from the bottom appear to be pure “click-bait” rather than adverts.

                        Robert.

                        #842389
                        Wink Hackman
                        Participant
                          @winkhackman25989
                          On John Hinkley Said:

                          That might work on a pc, but Firefox on an iPad doesn’t allow add-ons due to Apple restrictions, apparently. Turning on “strict” tracking helps but doesn’t fully prevent them.

                          John

                           

                          Firefox on Macbook is also popup free, just like Windows. Maybe iPad is different.

                          #842391
                          Nigel Graham 2
                          Participant
                            @nigelgraham2

                            You can tell Google it is “inappropriate” or simply close it, but I think Google just ignores us.

                            Yes, the site and its host needs an income but at least let’s have advertisements relevant to to the site generally, not idiocy about toilet-rolls and scam Korean dating-sites.

                            #842435
                            Diogenes
                            Participant
                              @diogenes

                              Great to see that even sexual exploitation isn’t a depth to which ?Kelsey? won’t stoop to make some extra lucre..

                              #842437
                              Graham Meek
                              Participant
                                @grahammeek88282

                                I regret to say Google does not take any notice of your choices. Thus left with only one choice I shall visit the site even less.

                                Regards

                                Gray,

                                 

                                #842441
                                jimmy b
                                Participant
                                  @jimmyb

                                  I’m getting quite an interesting assortment of banner adverts now….

                                   

                                  Jimb

                                  #842444
                                  Nigel Graham 2
                                  Participant
                                    @nigelgraham2

                                    Given that the site hosts need income from advertising, can they be asked to provide only engineering-themed ones? Not necessarily only model-engineering suppliers, as I doubt most of them could afford it anyway, but least the larger stockists of tools and materials. The larger fasteners and transmission-parts retailers, for example, as long as they sell to private customers, not only the trade.

                                    I’d rather see an ad even for, say, B&Q, ToolStation or Halfords than the idiocy some clown in California wants publicised.

                                    Also, if we use advertisement blockers (which will affect our legitimate suppliers as well as Goggle’s inane rubbish) does that affect the site’s income? We don’t want it starved of cash, but do want the choice of not being shown ads for ready-mixed concrete and the wrong sort of “models”.

                                     

                                    Just as I typed “clown in California” that stupid thing about bog seats appeared again. It does not matter what response you give to stop it, Google is too arrogant and cowardly to accept your request. Oh, it’s just switched to an ad for Starlink… I selected the ad’s three little dots sign. It opens a page supposedly offering you the choice to block that ad, but that itself is a lie. One sentence later and we’re back to a strange thing supposedly about IQ Tests. May be the actual IT test is whether you are foolish enough to open it…..

                                    #842450
                                    V8Eng
                                    Participant
                                      @v8eng

                                      I use duck duck go as my iPad browser and do not see those adverts just a space with with the word advert in blue and underlined.

                                      Absolutely no idea as to why or how maybe settings or something.

                                      #842451
                                      Michael Gilligan
                                      Participant
                                        @michaelgilligan61133

                                        Although my Adblock has, so far, protected me from this assault … I am disgusted to learn that Kelsey is hosting adverts for [as Nigel puts it]  the wrong sort of “models”

                                        This is surely supposed to be a family-friendly hobby, and the website should reflect those values.

                                        Wake-up to what you are doing, Kelsey Media Ltd !

                                        MichaelG.

                                        #842452
                                        Michael Gilligan
                                        Participant
                                          @michaelgilligan61133

                                          … and NO … this weasel-worded clause in the Terms & Conditions is not good enough to absolve you.

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                                          MichaelG.

                                          #842481
                                          Nigel Graham 2
                                          Participant
                                            @nigelgraham2

                                            Terms written presumably by some cowardly, £1000-an-hour solicitor to avoid any responsibility and even to avoid caring about the site’s users. I do not believe it impossible for Kelsey Media to choose what ads it will accept, and to control the third-party links it allows.

                                            It is impossible to blank these ads out without a blocker that will also of course block the ones we may want, such as that for Amadeal presently displayed below this reply panel.

                                            Google has no shame whatsoever. If you choose any of the four “feedback” options it offers, it not only refuses to obey your request, it responds with “Ad closed by Google” (it will re-appear ere long), and:

                                              Thanks. Feedback improves Google ads.

                                             

                                            meaning, “We will continue to plaster your site with whatever irrelevant rubbish we want because we don’t care about you, only about making money for us”.

                                             

                                             

                                            Who are Kelsey? It is a British firm (makes a change!), and Companies House tells us:

                                             

                                            Nature of business (SIC)
                                            58110 – Book publishing
                                            58142 – Publishing of consumer and business journals and periodicals
                                            93290 – Other amusement and recreation activities not elsewhere classified

                                             

                                            Perhaps Number 93290 covers the wrong sort of models….

                                             

                                             

                                             

                                            #842487
                                            JasonB
                                            Moderator
                                              @jasonb

                                              As said the site needs income from adverts to survive.

                                              It should be clear for anyone to see that the number of adverts from “our suppliers” has been reducing over the last few years. We now just have one down the right hand side and the smaller “shopping partners” are long gone, Warco along the top and the Amadeal banner has shrunk to a square box not a banner width. Hardly surprizing when they read that many users are not even seeing their adverts due to the use of ad blockers.

                                              Can you blame Kelsey for looking elsewhere to try and get some income to keep the site going? At least they have made an effort to keep it running rather than just decide it costs more than it is worth in increased sales and lets face it many users of the site don’t even support the mag by purchasing it.

                                              Be careful what you wish for.

                                               

                                               

                                              #842491
                                              Diogenes
                                              Participant
                                                @diogenes

                                                Yes, I get the advertising argument – the bit that I object to is that my subscription seems to be helping to platform businesses making money from sexual exploitation.

                                                #842492
                                                Michael Gilligan
                                                Participant
                                                  @michaelgilligan61133

                                                  I don’t have any grandchildren, Jason … but I am sure many forum members do.

                                                  What I would “wish for” is simply that these young people could visit a Model Engineering forum safely [without having the depravities of the world forced upon them]

                                                  MichaelG.

                                                  #842494
                                                  JasonB
                                                  Moderator
                                                    @jasonb

                                                    Maybe it is the time of day some people visit as I have not see ones that offend. I don’t visit in the middle of the night like some here, infact I usually switch the PC off just before 9.00. These adds are time specific so quite possibly you are seeing content that just like the TV is after a watershed.

                                                    personal 2

                                                    It is also possible to personalise what Google serves up to you so maybe try doing that and see if any offending content stops or at least reduces.

                                                    personal

                                                    I also mentioned in another thread that Google can serve ads based on your own web activity.

                                                    personal 3

                                                    #842498
                                                    Neil Wyatt
                                                    Moderator
                                                      @neilwyatt

                                                      I’m sure people appreciate that unless the website offsets its costs, it’s not sustainable. The choices are subscription or advertising and the latter keeps it open to the most users.

                                                      The thing with Google ads is that, unless your settings say otherwise, they serve you ads based on your search history.

                                                      If you see a lot of irrelevant stuff it may be worth considering allowing this; I actually prefer targeted advertising (I still ignore it most of the time).

                                                      I pay £20 a year on one forum I use which helps supports it and removes almost all the advertising (the exception is whoever is the current sponsor of the forum, who gets a banner ad near the top).

                                                      I will ask if there is a way to get the advertising here more relevant.

                                                      I could suggest to Kelsey that they consider such a ‘premium’ forum membership that eliminates all but a tiny proportion of ads in a similar way. Would anyone be interested in this?

                                                      Neil

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