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    srb1
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      @srb1

      I’m a complete newbie here and neither an engineer nor someone with a workshop or tools. I’m trying to find someone who has lathe skills that I can pay to turn accurately some bespoke but simple parts out of solid brass tube (8mm max diameter). Sorry if this is in the wrong place and please will the moderators move as necessary. Thanks Steve

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      #807757
      vintagengineer
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        @vintagengineer

        Where abouts are you?

        #807763
        srb1
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          @srb1

          Leicestershire.

           

          I’m trying to get fabricated out of brass rod at least 25 solid single piece dummy (display) bullets to these dimensions:

           

          Roth-Sauer

          (Dimension in millimetres; each to be one piece including the ogival head)

           

          And also some to these dimensions:

           

          8x19_Roth-Steyr-2

           

           

          Thanks

          Steve

          #807770
          DC31k
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            @dc31k

            You will need to specify the ogive shape rather more precisly than just by means of a word (see elliptical ogive here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogive).

            You need either to delete the extraneous letters adjacent the dimensions or provide a table explaining what they mean.

            Do you need to specify all dimensions to 0.01mm? Every decimal place you add, adds cost. How are you going to measure the 0.02mm taper in the section below the ogive? Are you expecting square corners (i.e. zero blend radius) at diameter changes?

            It would be good to locate an engineering drawing of something so you can see how things are properly dimensioned and toleranced.

            #807772
            duncan webster 1
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              @duncanwebster1

              I think if you draw it out in CAD it will save you  a lot of money. Can the ‘ogive’ be half of an ellipse? As they are dummy for display would +- 0.1 mm be close enough.

              If you’re not CADerate (is there such a word) let us know, its only 10 minutes work. I can do it in 2D, at a stretch in 3D, but one of the experts can take 2D and rotate the profile easy peasy

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              duncan webster 1
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                @duncanwebster1

                What do the figures down the RHS mean?

                #807779
                Peter Cook 6
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                  @petercook6

                  Are these the sort of thing you want made? At £1.75 each they would be far cheaper to buy. I doubt you could buy the brass for that price let alone the cost of making them.

                  The Roth-Steyer-2 ammunition is likely to be a lot harder to source.

                   

                  #807803
                  srb1
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                    @srb1

                    Thank you everyone for your input.

                    Dealing with things in the order of your responses:

                     

                    @DC31k

                    (1) The ogive is not supercritical and can probably be half an ellipse provided the TL and CL are correct

                    (2) On the RHS (in green)

                    TL= Total Length measured from the base (= Ogive + Case)

                    CL = Case Length measured from the base (the Case, being the whole section below the Ogive)

                    HL = not sure what it stands for but it is the height from the base to the straight part of the Case and so includes the Rim, Groove, and 45 degree section between the straight part of the Case and the Groove

                    GW = not sure what it stands for but it is the height of the Groove (i.e. between the Rim and the 45 degree section)

                    RT = not sure what it stands for but it is the height if the Rim

                    On the LHS (in red)

                    B = Bullet diameter (i.e the widest part of the ogive section)

                    M = Mouth diameter (i.e the Case at the top)

                    H = not sure what it stands for but it is the diameter of the case immediately above the 45  degree section

                    G = Groove diameter

                    R – Rim diameter

                    (3) Can be to nearest lower 0.1mm

                    (4) Zero blend is not essential

                     

                    @duncanwebster1

                    (1) If someone could produce a CAD drawing that would be fantastic

                    (2) See above on the RHS dimensions

                     

                    @petercook6

                    Unfortunately the 7.65mm Browning (aka .32 ACP) has too long a case length, too wide a rim and too shallow a groove. These solid brass dummy shells are intended to be able to fit in the obsolete pistols chambered for them (Roth Sauer and Roth Steyr pistols) to display how they function and operate without having to use original bullets (with all the problems that might involve)

                    #807847
                    duncan webster 1
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                      @duncanwebster1

                      Needs checking. All you need now is one of the clever 3D chaps to make a 3D model and a CAM file (whatever that is). Send me an email address via pm and I’ll send the dxf. You do however need to decide on tolerances, conventionally just having one decimal point allows +- 0.05mm

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