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    Robert Goldsteen 1
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      @robertgoldsteen1

      I bought an adjustable angle plate which may raise and fall a job mounted to it's T slots. My lathe is a Chinese Hafco AL-250 in Australia, I figured to remove the compound slide, drill and tap the cross slide to mount the angle plate. I could mount an end mill in the chuck or collet to mill 4 and 6 mm key ways as key ways are on the end of shafts. All advice is appreciated, Ozebob

      #33852
      Robert Goldsteen 1
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        @robertgoldsteen1

        rise and fall angle plate to be mounted on lathe cross slide

        #550474
        speelwerk
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          @speelwerk

          Do not know your lathe but cross slides can be made of quite hard material which makes drilling and tapping not that easy. Niko.

          #550493
          ega
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            @ega
            Posted by speelwerk on 19/06/2021 18:28:52:

            Do not know your lathe but cross slides can be made of quite hard material which makes drilling and tapping not that easy. Niko.

            I was surprised by this and wonder if you can give some examples of lathes with this characteristic.

            I would encourage Ozebob to give his idea a try; perhaps a trial hole in an unobtrusive location on the cross slide?

            #550499
            speelwerk
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              @speelwerk

              I once milled down a spare Myford cross slide to fit a large diameter tube between the centers, the cutter needed re-sharpening after work done.

              Of course would also encourage Ozebob to give it a try but you do not want a broken tap left in your cross slide because you was a bit over enthousiast.

              Niko.

              #550503
              Mick B1
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                @mickb1

                However carefully you choose the position of your tapped holes, you might find you need a range of them to suit different types of work held on your vertical slide.

                On my WM250V, the vertical slide base plate bolts down using T-slots in the crossslide. There's no particular position I use all the time. Of course, if your lathe has a very big range of crossslide movement, that might not be an issue.

                #550512
                Simon Collier
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                  @simoncollier74340

                  You can buy vertical slides suitable for Hafco lathes at Hare &Forbes. I think you mount them to the top slide position.

                  #550517
                  Paul Lousick
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                    @paullousick59116

                    The vertical slide sold by Hafco (Hare and Forbes) mounts on the top slide instead of the 4-way tool holder.

                    Hafco lathe: **LINK**

                    Hafco vertical slide: **LINK**

                    #550522
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb

                      If it's just for cutting keyways in shafts then provided they are not too large put them in the toolpost and pack to height as you would with a boring bar, even easier if you have a QCTP.

                      #550949
                      ega
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                        @ega
                        Posted by speelwerk on 19/06/2021 22:13:00:

                        I once milled down a spare Myford cross slide to fit a large diameter tube between the centers, the cutter needed re-sharpening after work done.

                        Of course would also encourage Ozebob to give it a try but you do not want a broken tap left in your cross slide because you was a bit over enthousiast.

                        Niko.

                        Thanks for elaborating your earlier comment and incidentally adding to the Myford's reputation for tackling the seemingly-impossible. I think you may have been unlucky with your casting as I have tapped numerous holes in Myford cross slides without problem.

                        I agree about the horrors of removing broken taps!

                        #550989
                        speelwerk
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                          @speelwerk

                          "I think you may have been unlucky with your casting". It must have been export quality than.

                          Do not make much use of it but handy when needed. Niko.

                          #551118
                          Chris Crew
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                            @chriscrew66644

                            I am having an attack of the 'eeby-jeebies' here just reading about people butchering Myford and other lathes.

                            Absolute sacrilege – Stop it immediately!

                            #551150
                            speelwerk
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                              @speelwerk
                              Posted by Chris Crew on 24/06/2021 08:39:45:

                              I am having an attack of the 'eeby-jeebies' here just reading about people butchering Myford and other lathes.

                              Absolute sacrilege – Stop it immediately!

                              Sorry to disagree but it is not butchering, just making fit for purpose. btw a cross slide is interchangeable and the one "butchered" was a left over spare short length after I invested in a long one. Niko.

                              #551159
                              John Hinkley
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                                @johnhinkley26699

                                As a self-confessed "butcher", can I offer the OP an insight into what I did to my lathe?

                                I have an Asian-built generic 9 x 20 lathe, not dissimilar in general concept to that owned by Robert. When I decided to try to fit a secondhand Myford cross slide to it in order to make use of the tee slots, I came up against a number of problems. After a lot of head scratching, I compared the original cross slide, with no tee slots, to the Myford one and concluded that there was very little difference in the "meat" available on the standard one, so set about milling tee slots into it. The result has served me well for at least 6 years with no apparent ill effects to the lathe.

                                This is what it looked like, originally.

                                Asian original cross slide

                                And this is how it turned out after the butchery, before minus the top slide.

                                Original re-mounted on the lathe

                                The two tee slots furthest apart are at Myford spacings, the central one is positioned to accommodate home-brewed kit.

                                Worked for me – but Robert will have make his own mind up whether to take the chance. I was prepared to buy a new cross slide if it all went for a ball of chalk.

                                There's a brief description in my album here:

                                https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/albums/member_album.asp?a=38668

                                John

                                Edit – the cross slide was manufactured from cast iron so easy to machine, if a bit messy.

                                Edited By John Hinkley on 24/06/2021 13:48:54

                                #551198
                                Chris Crew
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                                  @chriscrew66644

                                  With respect to the above, let me qualify the term 'butchery' and the context in which it was meant in my comment. IMO there is nothing wrong with carefully modifying or enhancing a machine tool to accommodate attachments or facilitate greater convenience of use. Indeed, my own cherished Myford has been suitably, and I hope properly, adapted to permit the use of head-stock dividing attachments etc. and I am contemplating modifying the apron to fit a rapid threading device.

                                  I was thinking more along the lines of drilling and tapping holes in slides and face-plates to facilitate the machining of possibly just one job. I would have thought that this, besides anything else, would have detracted from the value of the machine alone when the time came to sell it on. Notwithstanding the unsightly appearance of apparently randomly drilled and tapped holes.

                                  Each to their own, the machines are the individual's property and they are perfectly entitled to do whatever they want with them as I do with mine. I was just making the point, possibly very badly, that it would never do for me personally and not a way of working that I would ever adopt. Again, IMO, there is usually a way around everything with a little thought without resorting to 'butchery'.

                                  #551202
                                  speelwerk
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                                    @speelwerk

                                    This is the cros slide in question it increases the diameter over the slide by just over 19 mm. Only used ones perhaps 25 years ago and therefore covered in grease for storage but fitted in a few minutes when needed. Niko.s3110001.jpg

                                    #551205
                                    bernard towers
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                                      @bernardtowers37738

                                      If you just want to do key ways why not make a cross drilling jig to fit the crosslide and do your key ways on that, which is the method I use. The jig is a robust piece of steel angle machined dead square with a piece of 3/4 x5/8 fixed to it horizontally at centre height. Bolt square to crosslide and machine V groove. Perfectly on centre and zero set up time. Can be tarted up a bit with front fence to aid squareness and if no t slots in crosslide make one of your fixingholes an arc slot so keys on tapers can be done or angular holes, only limited by your imagination. Best of luck.

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