Using a Fly Cutter to face aluminium.

Using a Fly Cutter to face aluminium.

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    Chris123
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      @chris123

      Hi, does anyone use a fly cutter to face aluminium?

      What shape should I make to the HSS tool bit?

      Any other advice?!

       

      Thanks,

      Edited By Chris123 on 15/08/2013 18:25:44

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      Chris123
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        @chris123
        #127005
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          Yep, I just round the corner over and give it 5-10deg or rake.

          Firefly36

          Firely40

          #127006
          Thor 🇳🇴
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            @thor

            Hi Chris,

            Flycutting was discussed on this forum earlier. The toolbit need a bit more rake than for steel, and smooth surfaces. Have a look here, or here.

            Thor

            Edited By Thor on 15/08/2013 18:44:04

            #127011
            magpie
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              @magpie

              Hi Chris. I use a lathe profile tool in the fly cutter for all my fly cutting now. No more sharpening, just turn the insert round a little when it shows wear. Brass, ally, steel, cuts them all just fine. There are two more photos on the subject in my photos.

              Cheers Derek.100_0821 (small).jpg

              #127012
              Sub Mandrel
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                @submandrel

                I use a basic HSS toolbit and get a mirror finish. Flycutting ally is one of the nicest maching operations.

                Neil

                #127014
                Danny M2Z
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                  @dannym2z

                  Posted by Chris123 on 15/08/2013 18:24:13:

                  > Hi, does anyone use a fly cutter to face aluminium?

                  > What shape should I make to the HSS tool bit?

                  > Any other advice?

                  G'day Chris.

                  If using a HSS tool, sharpen it as a LH lathe tool. I find that kero (paraffin) as a cutting lube can improve the final finish.

                  Regards from the land of the kangaroo

                  * Danny M *

                  #127017
                  Chris123
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                    @chris123

                    Thanks for your replys!

                    i will have a look at the links later.

                    I think I have an old LH lathe tool in an old size so I'll try that first tonight.

                    Thanks.

                    #127021
                    _Paul_
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                      @_paul_

                      I use this for alloy cylinder heads

                      #127032
                      mechman48
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                        @mechman48

                        Chris

                        I have used a left handed carbide tipped cutter in a home made holder for some fly cutting, I used an old MT2 drill taper & machined a holder to suit the cutter. It has cut Brass, Ally, & MS without too much effort.. but only with light d.o.c. on. I now use a 4 tipped indexible insert for any fly cutting that I need to do & it has cut all materials quite effectively.

                        2012-12-02 Machining CI rear t/post (800x600).jpg

                        Homemade fly cutter

                        Cheers

                        George.

                        #127041
                        Engine Builder
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                          @enginebuilder

                          Here's the one I use, it can be used in lathe or mill. As the sweep is large you get a nice finish and unless the work is large, you don't get the second cut so a nice finish is acheived.

                          #127183
                          Chris123
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                            @chris123

                            Thanks for all the advice. I tried a piece of HSS with a radius on the end. I pretty much got a polished finish first time. The picture is below, it's HE30 / 6082 T6.  1000rpm, 50mm diameter cut, table speed between 12-252mm/minute (didn't really make much difference). 

                            I tried various different methods, even with the head tilted 0.5 degree so that it only cut once, I'm not 100% but I think when the leading side of the fly cutter was cutting it was a better finish and with the trailing side cutting it was a much worse finish.

                            Using a traditional shape lathe tool gave a nice machined finish, similar to a computer disc.

                             

                            However I think the best advice I read was to use the lathe instead!

                             

                            I found a face cutter at a car boot sale this morning for £5 so will probably use that in future!

                             

                            Thanks,

                             

                            Edited By Chris123 on 18/08/2013 12:56:19

                            Edited By Chris123 on 18/08/2013 13:04:32

                            Edited By Chris123 on 18/08/2013 13:17:50

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