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    John Billard 1
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      @johnbillard1

      Is type correction fluid, e.g. Tippex, the thing for this?

      John B

      #16334
      John Billard 1
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        @johnbillard1
        #574529
        Dave Smith 14
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          @davesmith14

          Yes.

          #574530
          JA
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            @ja

            Yes, yes. It works. If you have doubts use more than one coat.

            After Dave's reply.

            JA

            #574536
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              Best if it is the solvent based one.

              #574540
              Bo’sun
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                @bosun58570

                Best stock up on it, typewriters are probably a thing of the past.

                #574543
                Baz
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                  @baz89810

                  +1 for Tippex, a lead pencil also works fairly well.

                  #574553
                  Circlip
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                    @circlip

                    Is solvent based Tip-ex still available? Solvent used was Trichlorethane, H and S and all that garbage.

                    Regards Ian.

                    #574554
                    Massimo Dalmonte
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                      @massimodalmonte45801

                      A "paint" made with jeweller's rouge and water, applied with a brush, works too.

                      Best regards,

                      Massimo

                      #574555
                      JasonB
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                        @jasonb
                        Posted by Circlip on 07/12/2021 10:10:47:

                        Is solvent based Tip-ex still available? Solvent used was Trichlorethane, H and S and all that garbage.

                        Regards Ian.

                        Yes but now has a different solvent  here

                        Edited By JasonB on 07/12/2021 10:20:25

                        #574559
                        Circlip
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                          @circlip

                          Thanks for that Jason, seems due to all the precautions stated, Tip-ex shouldn't be exposed to any heat source and Naptha has a slower evaporation rate than Trike.

                          Regards Ian.

                          #574571
                          Baz
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                            @baz89810

                            When I was working we used to use a Nikrobraz stop off pen, very similar to a felt tip pen, it deposited a very light green liquid a bit thinner than Tippex on to the work, we have were using it in a vacuum furnace and it worked perfectly every time. Just need now to find someone who sells the pens in small quantities.

                            #574575
                            john fletcher 1
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                              @johnfletcher1

                              Years ago when Men were men, plumbers would wipe a lead pipe and under ground cable jointers would make a live joint, they used "Plumbers Black" as a resist. It came In a Yellow tin, they would dribble, a drop of water on to the black and paint it onto the pipe to make a very neat connection. After the work, the residual would wash off. I live where it was made and sold, and have tried for several years to find out what it composed of. Certainly effective at high temperature and cheap in 1950/60's. I'm sure it would be a good alternative to Tippex and no solvent involved. Does a forum member know what the Black was composed of ? John

                              #574580
                              Bill Phinn
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                                @billphinn90025
                                Posted by Circlip on 07/12/2021 10:35:00:

                                Thanks for that Jason, seems due to all the precautions stated, Tip-ex shouldn't be exposed to any heat source and Naptha has a slower evaporation rate than Trike.

                                Regards Ian.

                                 

                                I've regularly used Tipp-Ex when soldering. Yes, it emits a green smoke when heated and an unpleasant smell, but I can live with that, or at least I have done so far.

                                Massimo's suggestion is probably the best one from a safety standpoint. It just requires a bit more work to keep some mixed up and ready for use.

                                 

                                Edited By Bill Phinn on 07/12/2021 15:49:33

                                #574581
                                pgk pgk
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                                  @pgkpgk17461

                                  I found this reference via google:

                                  ‘plumber’s black’ –



                                  a masking fluid made of size (animal skin glue),



                                  whiting and lamp black mixed together to a



                                  creamy consistency

                                  #574586
                                  SillyOldDuffer
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                                    @sillyoldduffer
                                    Posted by john fletcher 1 on 07/12/2021 14:49:04:

                                    … when Men were men, … they used "Plumbers Black" as a resist. …I live where it was made and sold, and have tried for several years to find out what it composed of. …

                                    Henley's 20th Century Formulas, Processes and Trade Secrets says:

                                    a protective mass consisting essentially of carbon (graphite, coke or charcoal), powdered talc or asbestos, ferric hydrate (with or without ferrous hydrate) and, if desired a little Aluminium Oxide, together with a a binding agent of the customary kind (glue solution, beer).

                                    Example recipe: Graphite, 50 parts; powdered coke, 5 parts; powdered talc, 5 parts, glue solution, 2.5 parts; drop beer, 2.5 parts; ferric hydrate, 10 parts; aluminium oxide, 5 parts.

                                    By glue, they mean animal glue made from bone and sinew. Drop Beer seems to be low-alcohol beer, less than 0.5%

                                    I could only find Ferric Hydrate – modern name Iron(iii) Hydroxide – sold as a laboratory reagent. £104 for 5g, ouch!

                                    Might be possible to make your own cheaply by mixing garden centre Iron Sulphate with Caustic Soda. I don't suppose it needs to be pure.

                                    Dave

                                    #574604
                                    Steve Skelton 1
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                                      @steveskelton1

                                      I'm also with Massimo on this one.

                                      Jewellers rouge lasts forever and is easily mixed with a little water and if it goes dry in storage just add a little more water.

                                      Works a treat and is low cost – £4 for 50g (eBay) which will last for a lot of soldering.

                                      #578368
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                                        @formermember37818

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                                        #578652
                                        Neil Wyatt
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                                          @neilwyatt

                                          Chalk and charcoal ground up with a little bit of meths will make usable plumbers black.

                                          Neil

                                          #578672
                                          Dave Wootton
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                                            @davewootton

                                            Recently I couldn't find Tippex brand locally, so tried W H Smiths own solvent brand it works just as well as the genuine article and turns out to be much cheaper too!

                                            Dave

                                            #578884
                                            john fletcher 1
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                                              @johnfletcher1

                                              Many thanks Dave for the list of ingredients for PLUMBERS BLACK, I'll give it a try and let you know how I get on. In the means time I'll give Jewellers rouge a go. John

                                              #583203
                                              John Billard 1
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                                                @johnbillard1

                                                Just to report that I have used jeweller's rouge and it worked well.

                                                The job was to solder in the backhead bushes for the gauge frame x 2. I made a jig to hold them square from some steel strip. The resist stopped successfully these from being soldered.

                                                Thank you Massimo and all others who contributed.

                                                John B

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