Help for beginner

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3 December 2012 at 08:29 #105325
Jarek Ziel
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Hi!

I'm not englishman, and i have trouble with some sentce. Can you explain to me what does it mean the "turn for grind"? I will very grateful.

Jarek
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3 December 2012 at 08:29 #6474
Jarek Ziel
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4 December 2012 at 12:19 #105423
Tony Ray
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Jarek,

'Turn for grind' does not make any sense on its own, perhaps you are reading something that was e.g. translated from e.g. Chinese ?

Turn is probably from the verb turning ie. to remove metal using a lathe.

Grind in this is probably from the verb grinding i.e to remove metal by ginding eg as done by a cylindical grinder.

if you could reply with thefull paragraph from where you have taken 'turn for grind ' I might be able to work it out for you.

Tony
4 December 2012 at 12:22 #105424
Ady1
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@ady1
"turn for grind"

is bad english

It has no meaning for us

As mentioned, if you give us the entire sentence or paragraph then we should be able to help translate it into good english
4 December 2012 at 12:47 #105427
Robert Dodds
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Jarek,

Engineers have had a form of Text Speak for many years.

You need to make clear where this statement is used but IMHO it is a short instruction to turn typically 0.5mm oversize to the dimension and then remove from the lathe and grind to finish size, maybe after hardening the part.

Bob D
4 December 2012 at 13:55 #105434
magpie
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@magpie
Tony. if Jarek do'es not understand english very well he will have trouble with e.g. and i.e.

Robert. He will also probably not understand IMOH. But i agree with you both that we need the full sentence in order to grasp the meaning.

Cheers Derek.
4 December 2012 at 14:13 #105435
Siddley
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@siddley
Jarek – can you find a 'scientific and technical' dictionary in English and your own language ? That is what I had to do when I emigrated to Spain. It will help you a lot.
The modern technical dictionaries are very expensive, but older versions from the 1950's or 1960's are cheap and still contain all the engineering words you will need.
4 December 2012 at 17:13 #105448
Split Pin
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@splitpin
"turn for grind" is as described by Bob D, it is an instruction to a skilled operater in a machine shop to indicate that there is a need for further machining on that part of the job to complete it, either a particular surface finish is required or a more precision size than would be normally achieved from commercial turning i.e 0.0001" or 0.001mm, Depending upon heat treatment method different allowances would be added, the original drawing may have been produced for in house use where all the participants understand the process of manufacture, and no doubt contains more information than is being presented by the original poster

Steve G
4 December 2012 at 17:28 #105451
Grizzly bear
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@grizzlybear
Hi Jarek, Where are you from, Poland? Come back on the forum, you will get good help. (I have typed this slowly, so it will be easier to read).

Regards, Bear..
4 December 2012 at 17:33 #105453
DMB
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@dmb
Jarek,

Hope this might help –

i.e. = Latin abbreviation for id est, English = that is.

e.g. = Latin abbreviation, English = for example.

IMHO = modern computer abbreviation = In My Honest Opinion.

The two Latin abbreviations are commonly used.

John
5 December 2012 at 23:52 #105566
GaryM
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@garym
Posted by DMB on 04/12/2012 17:33:06:

<snip>……IMHO = modern computer abbreviation = In My Honest Opinion…..<snip>

John

I think IMHO is normally taken as In My Humble Opinion although David Cameron may disagree
6 December 2012 at 13:16 #105595
Terryd
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Posted by Gary Marland on 05/12/2012 23:52:57:

Posted by DMB on 04/12/2012 17:33:06:

<snip>……IMHO = modern computer abbreviation = In My Honest Opinion…..<snip>

John

I think IMHO is normally taken as In My Humble Opinion although David Cameron may disagree

LOL
6 December 2012 at 18:07 #105605
Robert Dodds
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I think IMHO is normally taken as In My Humble Opinion although David Cameron may disagree

I KNOW I meant "humble" when I wrote the original.

I always try to be humble but I can't say I'm always honest. For the future I will resort to using full written English especially as all this banter seems to have scared off poor Jarek .

I think it was Grizzly's joke about slow reading that startred the rot….. Polish jokes are only for Americans to tell, the English tell jokes about the Irish and Germans lampoon the Bavarians. Cross the boundaries at your peril!

Bob D
6 December 2012 at 18:51 #105607
FMES
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I would have thought it meant turn to a size leaving an allowance for grinding, i.e a couple of thouu oversize on a crank say, to allow for journal grinding.

and then as I read up the posts – exactly what Split pin said.
6 December 2012 at 19:34 #105612
Sub Mandrel
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I have enough Irish in me to tell Kerryman jokes (my bit is from Cork).

> I think IMHO is normally taken as In My Humble Opinion although David Cameron may disagree

"I My Hugs Often", perhaps? addressed to Ed Balls, no doubt…

Neil
7 December 2012 at 08:53 #105638
Takeaway
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@takeaway
Turn to grind = cut (turn) metal part using lathe but leave + 0 .3 – 0.5mm on outside diameter and smaller same amount in holes. 0.3 – 0.5 is called "grinding allowance". Then grind part to finish size. I hope you understand. Stuart
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