Solenoid engine

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3 March 2012 at 21:04 #86384
Bob Perkins
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I've seen some Youtube stuff on solenoid engines and had an hour on google but can't seem to find a set of plans for one. Any clues gents??

Bob..
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3 March 2012 at 21:04 #6009
Bob Perkins
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3 March 2012 at 21:25 #86388
nigel jones 5
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theres a company in america who sell them…i will repost when the name comes to me!!
3 March 2012 at 22:07 #86391
Bob Perkins
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Thanks Nigel.
4 March 2012 at 09:32 #86433
Les Jones 1
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Hi Bob,

There was a design in the "Elektor" magazine April 2010 for a 1 and 4 cylinder motors using the actuators from hard drives. I did theis Google search "elector 4 cylinder youtube" an found video of the Elektor and other designs. Notice in the search I originaly miss spelt "Elektor" using a "c" instead of a "k" When I realised and spelt it correctly I got less matches.

Les.
4 March 2012 at 09:51 #86435
Ian S C
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Back in 1988 , while recovering from a broken hip, I needed some thing to do, so I invented A solinoid engine (well i'd never heard of them), I sent an artical to ME, and it was published in October 1989, sorry no plans. After building 2 motors, I started making hot air engines, and have not stopped. After that time there were a few items, and I found one In ME back in the 1950s. Ian S C
4 March 2012 at 11:45 #86449
Gray62
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There is a uk company http://www.oldmodels.co.uk that sell the type of engine I believe you are referring to. Known as an armature engine.

CB
4 March 2012 at 13:39 #86462
Bob Perkins
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Thanks for the link CB, this is exactly the end result I have in mind. I would like to scratch build though rather than buy a kit. The finish on these looks really good, so perhaps a kit………

Bob..
4 March 2012 at 14:10 #86466
Robert Dodds
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Bob,

Not exactly a solenoid engine but this 13amp plug engine is fun to build and is readily built from the bitza box.

Full set of plans are here (and lots of other qwerky bits too)

http://www.john-tom.com/MyPlans/SteamPlans3/13AmpPlugEngine/13AmpPlugEngine.pdf

I was amazed at how many variants there are in the humble 3 pin plug!

Bob D
4 March 2012 at 15:15 #86470
Terryd
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Hi Bob P,

There are some lovely examples of builds of these types of engine over on HMEM. There was recently a series of posts on refurbishing an antique solenoid engine and there was a copy of the original patent with drawings and explamnation og the working. May provide a bassis if you can find it.

Regards

Terry
4 March 2012 at 15:25 #86473
Terryd
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Hi Bob P,

Found it. It is here and the patent is downloadable as a pdf, see another example here showng a guy building a copy of the old 'engine' It may be of use. I have a copy of the patent which was used as a basis to provide measurements if you send me a pm with your email address I'll send you a copy.

Best regards

Terry

Edited By Terryd on 04/03/2012 15:34:02
4 March 2012 at 18:43 #86496
Sub Mandrel
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I made a solenoid beam engine from cardboard. Sent a picture to David Carpenter, but i don't think he thought carboard beam engines were model engineering!

Neil
5 March 2012 at 11:50 #86575
Ian S C
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I think there were some wooden ones shown in ME at one stage.

My motors, a beam engine, and a horizontal open crank , the first was single acting, but after my 9yr old nephew had studied it for a while, he sugested that if I put two coils, and suitable switching, it could be made twice as powerful, so thats what I did with the horizontal one. On my motor the coil is hollow and the armature moves in and out in the manner of a piston, I think the stroke on both motors is 5/8". I'v run them on both AC, and DC. Ian S C
5 March 2012 at 13:57 #86585
Bob Perkins
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Thanks for all the info. I have Google info and loads of Photos, some quite detailed which will help no end. From the info from Terryd I discoved that the original was know as a MESCO engine after the Manhattan Electric Supply Company. I found a copy of an advert, with no date showing 3 three sizes, the largest having a 3 1/2" fly wheel a was 7" long. One search took me to a copy of the July 1931 Pratical Mechanics Magazine. I couldn't find any MESCO engine info, but the Americans sure know how to put a magazine together!! See the link below. Thanks again all for the replies.

Regards

Bob..

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=td4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PP38&lpg=PP38&dq=MESCO+engine+plan&source=bl&ots=WM1S5spatI&sig=6PbIWz5ypDD7-FFQA_ISOGGTPOQ&hl=en#v=onepage&q=MESCO%20engine%20plan&f=false
5 March 2012 at 21:56 #86621
Gone Away
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Sorry for the late response, Bob. I knew I had some stuff on this but couldn't lay my hands on it quickly. There was a Solenoid Engine design published in ME in 3 parts:

Part-1 Sept 11 1998,
Part 2 Oct 9 1998
Part 3 (can't make out the date but presumably within a few subsequent issues).

It was based on an earlier design published in the Jan 1903 ME
5 March 2012 at 22:05 #86624
Bob Perkins
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Thanks Sid
6 March 2012 at 01:51 #86645
Gone Away
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Bob, You're welcome

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