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  • #368336
    DONALD HOBDAY
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      @donaldhobday18888

      Hi, does anyone gave experience of this lathe on eBay

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      Thanks.
       
      Don
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      #19048
      DONALD HOBDAY
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        @donaldhobday18888

        600W 7 x 12 Lathe on eBay

        #368339
        Jon Lawes
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          @jonlawes51698

          Only that it might say the location is Germany but I suspect its China based on the sales address.

          #368348
          Bill Phinn
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            @billphinn90025

            Posted by Jon Lawes on 21/08/2018 19:05:30:I suspect its China based on the sales address.

            Yes, the seller's based in Zhejiang province, China.

            If there was a serious fault with it on arrival and you needed to return it, you'd probably be asked to return it to China and pay the return postage on the promise of it being refunded if the seller agrees after inspection that the item is in fact faulty.

            #368349
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              180volts, could get interestingsurprise

              #368352
              DONALD HOBDAY
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                @donaldhobday18888

                Experience only please. I understand the sourcing risk / issues.

                The reason I ask is they come up a lot, seem GVFM but cannot find any reviews.

                #368353
                Alan Waddington 2
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                  @alanwaddington2
                  Posted by JasonB on 21/08/2018 19:39:18:

                  180volts, could get interestingsurprise

                  I think you will find that is DC Jason wink 2

                  #368354
                  Alan Waddington 2
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                    @alanwaddington2

                    Posted by DONALD HOBDAY on 21/08/2018 19:46:48:

                    The reason I ask is they come up a lot, seem GVFM but cannot find any reviews.

                    Things that come out of China that seem GVFM are usually not………

                    #368355
                    DONALD HOBDAY
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                      @donaldhobday18888

                      Again…experience only please…not opinion. I am an adult and know the risks having lived and worked in China for 3 years running manufacturing companies

                      #368356
                      John Rudd
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                        @johnrudd16576

                        Looks very much like the Warco WM180….

                        Still has the dc motor with probably a Chinese version of the KB controller….

                        Although I dont have any direct experience of the machine, for the sort of money your paying I'd avoid it and spend a bit more on the Sieg SC3 offered by the likes of Arceurotrade…reason….reliabilty of the electrics. I have one and it does serve its purpose….reliably…

                        Edited By John Rudd on 21/08/2018 19:58:06

                        #368357
                        Anonymous
                          Posted by DONALD HOBDAY on 21/08/2018 19:56:41:

                          Again…experience only please…not opinion. I am an adult and know the risks having lived and worked in China for 3 years running manufacturing companies

                          Why are you bothering to ask us then, surely you can use your contacts in China to get the low down direct from source?

                          Andrew

                          #368360
                          DONALD HOBDAY
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                            @donaldhobday18888

                            Because I don't know anyone there with one!

                            #368362
                            JasonB
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                              @jasonb

                              I don't recall anyone on the forum having one of these so you may draw a blank

                              Regarding being GVFM, I did not see the fixed & traveling steadies, faceplate or a 4-jaw chuck mentioned in the advert, these would add about another £175 to the cost if you were to buy these from a UK supplier of similar style 180mm Variable speed lathes assuming they would fit. So not such a good saving given the obvious drawbacks of buying direct when comparing the cost from a UK supplier that includes all those items .

                              J

                              Edited By JasonB on 21/08/2018 20:17:11

                              #368364
                              John Rudd
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                                @johnrudd16576

                                Posted by DONALD HOBDAY on 21/08/2018 19:56:41:

                                Again…experience only please…not opinion.

                                But surely what you are asking is opinion based on experience?

                                I buy a pair of shoes, I wear them, they wear out very quickly….I've experienced the durability of said item, my opinion is they wear out quickly….ergo dont buy them….

                                As I said in my previous post, I've had/owned/used a mini lathe with a dc drive….They are ( insert own adjective!) compared to their brushless counterparts….which is why I now own an SC3 brushless version….

                                #368368
                                Alan Waddington 2
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                                  @alanwaddington2

                                  Well OP, if it represents such GVFM i think you should buy it, then you can be the first to do a review……..i look forward to reading your evaluation wink

                                  #368370
                                  DONALD HOBDAY
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                                    @donaldhobday18888

                                    John,

                                    It's not that I don't appreciate your view.

                                    I have been researching all lathe types within my budget and as usual my budget gets stretched and stretched.

                                    I could not find any reviews on this particular lathe hence the question. I want to fill a gap in my knowledge base!

                                    Others will soon be asking he same questiin as these lathes keep cropping up at a certain price point on eBay.

                                    Hence my request for experience using this particular machine.

                                    Don

                                    #368371
                                    not done it yet
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                                      @notdoneityet

                                      Seems like you might be drawing a blank on the forum, possibly because nobody would touch them! Lack of any experience can tell you a lot (unless the hundreds on the forum,who have tried them, are keeping very quiet about itsmiley).

                                      Buy one and give us the benefit of your experience. Someone has to be first.smiley

                                      #368372
                                      DONALD HOBDAY
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                                        @donaldhobday18888

                                        Alan,

                                        Possibly.

                                        I assume you have ignored my request to post only if you have experience of this machine,

                                        I want to hear from someone that has used / owned one!

                                        #368373
                                        DONALD HOBDAY
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                                          @donaldhobday18888

                                          Please, please please…only post if you have this machine. I was hoping for first hand experience.

                                          #368376
                                          Mike Poole
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                                            @mikepoole82104

                                            **LINK**

                                            If you want to save a tenner Amazon list them.

                                            Mike

                                            #368378
                                            Robbo
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                                              @robbo
                                              Posted by Mike Poole on 21/08/2018 20:51:48:

                                              **LINK**

                                              If you want to save a tenner Amazon list them.

                                              Mike

                                              And there are 2 reviews on Mike's Amazon link

                                              #368379
                                              Neil Wyatt
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                                                @neilwyatt

                                                The lathe bears a strong family resemblance to some lathes sold by Chester and Warco.

                                                The fact is that many lathes manufactured in China are made with a wide range of specifications and options, including levels of quality control. Apparently identical lathes can even come from different factories as they are just variations on a standard design.

                                                Some cheap online sources get their stock from buying up machines rejected for export. I have also seen credible reports of examples built up using spares/overstock/reject items from different manufacturers, although to be fair these are usually really basic, crude machines.

                                                My advice would be to consider what value you put on after sales support, ready access to dedicated spares and accessories, a year's warranty and the protection of UK consumer law. Plus if you buy a UK version, you can be sure that other people's experiences of the machine are of the same machine (although don't bear in mind that continuing improvement often means that review of older examples often highlight issues that have since been addressed – the early batches of my two lathes both had some issues that were corrected in later batches).

                                                Obviously if you visit a UK distributor you can see a machine first hand, but don't assume an eBay version is going to be the same, it might be but experience suggests there will probably be detail differences at the very least.

                                                After that, it's your choice – balance the 'known unkowns' against the 'unknown unknowns'.

                                                Neil

                                                #368382
                                                ChrisB
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                                                  @chrisb35596

                                                  These are two reviews from amazon of someone who actually owns the lathe – will not give my opinion as I don't own one.

                                                  **LINK**

                                                  #368395
                                                  Bob Stevenson
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                                                    @bobstevenson13909

                                                    This appears to be a facsimile of Warco WM180 which is sold aound the world with different names…….however, although apparently cheaper by £250 it lacks the other kit that comes with WM180, namely four jaw, two steadies and some change wheels….. to me this makes the warco better/equal value for money with much lower risk level.

                                                     

                                                    ……My WM180 which I have been using for a year is a nice little lathe and I have no real complaints.

                                                    Edited By Bob Stevenson on 21/08/2018 23:31:17

                                                    #368396
                                                    Bill Phinn
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                                                      @billphinn90025

                                                      Helpful though the Amazon link is, crucially that isn't the lathe the OP has asked for opinions on, because the seller is different. Those reviews are as relevant (and irrelevant) as reviews of the similar-spec lathes being sold by Warco and Chester, for example.

                                                      Hopefully, Neil's post will help the OP see that who you buy your lathe from is often as crucial (arguably more so) in determining how good it is for your needs as the spec of the lathe in the first place.

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