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This topic has 19 replies, 11 voices, and was last updated 7 August 2018 at 15:19 by Ron Laden.

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6 August 2018 at 14:58 #365883
Ron Laden
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Hi guys,

A picture below of whats left of the drive wheel tyres on my cheapie brand bandsaw. I dug it out of the shed this morning in whats probably 10 years since it saw the light of day. The saw is in very good condition considering the time its been hidden away but as you can see the wheel tyres have dried up and completely perished.

I have no idea of the make of the saw but it is probably Chinese or Indian. I know there are suppliers where you can get various sizes of blade but wondered if anyone knows if its possible to get hold of other spares and if so from where..?

Thanks

Ron

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6 August 2018 at 14:58 #19028
Ron Laden
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6 August 2018 at 17:58 #365927
Nige
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Hi Ron. It might be worth letting people know the diameter and width of the wheel then you might get info on other makes that are a similar size from whom you might get a tyre.
6 August 2018 at 18:59 #365944
Cornish Jack
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Ron – just had to do a similar repair to my VERY old Naerok. A spare leather trouser belt which had obviously shrunk over the years , was sliced to width and scarfed to length, super glued at one end, 'Sticks like…' glued around the wheel rim and finally super glued at the other end. Left to set overnight and all was as JS's mantra!

rgds

Bill

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6 August 2018 at 19:05 #365947
John Reese
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@johnreese12848
Google Bandsaw tire UK. Maybe you should spell it tyre.
6 August 2018 at 19:13 #365949
Andrew Tinsley
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@andrewtinsley63637
I have made a band using sheet black rubber. Cut a strip a touch undersize Scarf the joint with cyano and once fixed pull over the wheel.

I don't think you have a cats chance in hell of finding a spare.

Andrew.
6 August 2018 at 19:57 #365961
Clive Brown 1
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I tyred the wheels on my home-made bandsaw with Pirelli rubber upholstery webbing, cut to suit. Glued it onto the aluminium wheels with Evostick contact adhesive. That was many years ago. Still going strong, albeit looking a bit tired looking by now; (sorry!)

Clive
6 August 2018 at 20:07 #365965
Ron Laden
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Thanks guys, I have found a few leads that may help, will have a phone around tomorrow.

It seems that the tyres are made of Urethane and from what I,ve seen so far they are not cheap, depending on size, £50 or more for a pair of tyres….?

Will see what tomorrow brings but I may be buying some rubber strip and making my own.

The tyres I am looking for are 233 mm dia x 12 mm wide x 2,5mm thick.

cheers

Ron

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6 August 2018 at 20:16 #365969
peak4
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Ron, I've re-tyred all 3 of mine rather than retiring them.

One a little 3 wheel Burgess, one a larger 3 wheel Emco, and the last one a hand held 2 wheeler.

I used strips of car gasket material, the stuff often used on sumps, made from granulated rubber and cork, bonded together. These are glued onto the wheels with plain old UHU contact adhesive from poundland. The gasket is available in sheet form from some car spares or is often seen at steam rallies.

It works perfectly well, with the blade staying on the wheels and doesn't slip.

Are you within easy travelling distance of Buxton?

Bill

Edited By peak4 on 06/08/2018 20:18:19
6 August 2018 at 20:22 #365972
Ron Laden
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Thanks Bill

Well that sounds like a good way of doing it, which obviously works.

No I am a fair way from Buxton, based in North Devon.

Ron
6 August 2018 at 21:30 #365991
Michael Cox 1
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Hi Rob,

I had the same problem with my band saw. I bought some neoprene rubber strip from ebay and cut it to the correct width and made a scarf joint and then superglue it to make a new tyre. It has been satisfactory for at least a year.
6 August 2018 at 21:58 #365996
Ron Laden
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Thanks Michael, I think making my own tyres is probably the way to go

Ron
6 August 2018 at 22:58 #366004
Muzzer
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Funny – the generic 4×6 Chinesium bandsaw doesn't use these tires / tyres – the blade runs directly on the cast iron drive wheel. Yours may well work without needing a replacement if you remove the perished remnants. Just a thought….

Murray
7 August 2018 at 00:21 #366009
peak4
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Posted by Muzzer on 06/08/2018 22:58:52:

Funny – the generic 4×6 Chinesium bandsaw doesn't use these tires / tyres – the blade runs directly on the cast iron drive wheel. Yours may well work without needing a replacement if you remove the perished remnants. Just a thought….

Murray

We used to use several of these at work before getting a deWalt TCT chop saw.
I found that it didn't take long for the wheels to flatten the tooth set on the inside of the blade, and yes it was the wheels, not the 45° twisting bearings.
Also I'd suggest that with aluminium wheels, the blades might start eroding the wheels. At least tyres, home made or otherwise, have a bit of give in them.

Bill
7 August 2018 at 00:25 #366011
peak4
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Posted by Ron Laden on 06/08/2018 20:22:36:

Thanks Bill

Well that sounds like a good way of doing it, which obviously works.

No I am a fair way from Buxton, based in North Devon.

Ron

If you do go down that route, I'd try and find the fine grained stuff, which seems to have more rubber, less cork, and by its nature, more bonding material.

**LINK**

Bill
7 August 2018 at 06:41 #366015
Rex Hanman
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Hi Ron,

I have a 14" Tauco bandsaw that had the same problem. Tauco was the "overseas" name for Delta, an American company. I searched the internet for replacement "tires" and found them to be readily available from the US but with shipping and possible import duty the price was excessive. I could not find a souce in the UK.

Then the club's Axminster bandsaw tyres disintegrated so I contacted them re replacements. Naturally the particular saw was no longer available but the guy in their spares dept (Kevin?) was brilliant and he managed to sort me out. I asked him about tyres for my Tauco and he suggested ebay but warned about the price as they come from the good old US of A. Then he suggested taking one of my wheels to their showroom and comparing it to their current range, well, you never know!

Well, one machine used tyres of exactly the same width but slightly different diameter, within 5 mm or so. I ordered as set and they fitted like a glove. They are very stretchy and would have fitted quite a wide range of diameters.

There are several youtube videos showing how to fit the tyres involving boiling in water for 15 minutes etc. This was totally unnecessary, It took seconds for two of us to fit all 4 tyres.

I have searched my bank statements to find the cost but just can't locate it. However, it wasn't very expensive and was easier than messing about glueing on strips of something. It's worth a phone call to Axminster.

Good luck!
7 August 2018 at 10:26 #366052
Ron Laden
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Thanks Rex,

I have just spoken to Axminster but they cant help, they have a belt which is the right size but it is a "T" shaped belt and mine are flat.

So I have just ordered some solid neoprene rubber strip from ebay and will give it a go at making my own. The strip I have ordered is reinforced with cotton and sounds quite hard wearing so hopefully it will do the job.

Ron
7 August 2018 at 11:09 #366067
Neil Wyatt
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Posted by peak4 on 07/08/2018 00:21:14:

I found that it didn't take long for the wheels to flatten the tooth set on the inside of the blade, and yes it was the wheels,

Sounds like you may have had blades that were too narrow. on mine the teeth don't run on the wheel.

Neil
7 August 2018 at 11:25 #366069
Ron Laden
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Posted by Muzzer on 06/08/2018 22:58:52:

Funny – the generic 4×6 Chinesium bandsaw doesn't use these tires / tyres – the blade runs directly on the cast iron drive wheel. Yours may well work without needing a replacement if you remove the perished remnants. Just a thought….

Murray

Hi Murray, my machine is fitted with alu wheels and as you can see ran on tyres.

Ron
7 August 2018 at 15:19 #366126
Ron Laden
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Well at the risk of seeming more stupid than I am, I will own up and say I found the make and model number of the saw. In my defence, when I carried the saw from the shed to the bench the label was facing away from me and as soon as I put the saw on the bench I opened the hinged cover, again away from me. This morning I closed the cover and there was the make and model number label as clear as day.

Anyway, surprise, surprise I have found the tyres and a new toothed drive belt on line from Solent Tools. The make is NuTool and model number HBS9-4, as soon as I googled the make and model quite a few links came up.

I still have the rubber sheet on the way but I can hold on to that for future use should I need it.

So happy I have found the correct tyres and a new drive belt but feeling a bit of an idiot for not looking for the makers label which was in an obvious place.

Thanks for all your help though guys, much appreciated.

Ron
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