Mechanical lubricator ratchet wheels

Mechanical lubricator ratchet wheels

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    Peter Simpson 1
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      Peter Simpson 1
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        I purchased a couple of 7/16" x 30 tooth wheels, I want fit them to an 8 BA spindle. The problem is the hole in the centre of the wheel 0,090" which is too big for 8 BA, the easy option would be to drill the centre hole out and fit a brass bush then drill and tap it 8 BA. The problem is the wheels appears to be case hardened and does not want to be drilled. Has anybody come across these wheels ?

        #521133
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          Do the wheels need to be hardened? If not, anneal them. Alternatively grind off the case hardening or get a drill/cutter suitable for cutting hardened steel.

          #521136
          Michael Gilligan
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            With reasonable care, they could be fixed using a suitable grade of ‘anaerobic retainer’

            [ Loctite, PermaBond, etc. ]

            MichaelG.

            #521149
            Peter Simpson 1
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              Tomorrow I make a stepped spindle and press fit the ratchet onto the over size shaft. As the wheel sits in the fork in the actuation arm, gluing would not be practical.

              #521188
              JasonB
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                You could anneal, drill and then reharden. Press or Loctite the bush in once hardened.

                #521235
                Peter Simpson 1
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                  If the wheels are case hardened would they anneal ? They are a dull grey colour so I assume they are not made of silver steel, machined then hardened.

                  #521237
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    Posted by Peter Simpson 1 on 20/01/2021 10:23:19:

                    If the wheels are case hardened would they anneal ? They are a dull grey colour so I assume they are not made of silver steel, machined then hardened.

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                    I have no way of knowing for sure, but that sounds like they might be sintered … in which case, I wish you luck.

                    … could you post a close-up photo ?

                    MichaelG.

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                    Edit: __ I’ve just looked [at a 34 tooth version] on the Reeves website;

                    but it doesn’t help much dont know

                    https://www.ajreeves.com/6592.html

                    Edited By Michael Gilligan on 20/01/2021 10:35:16

                    #521240
                    Peter Simpson 1
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                      Michael I think you may be right with the sintered suggestion. Looks like the spindle will have to be a push fit into the central hole in the wheel.

                      #521298
                      Peter Simpson 1
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                        @petersimpson1

                        Ratchet wheels

                        One old wheel one new, Neither will allow a drill to enlarge the central hole which is 0.090" I have ordered some 3/32" En1a rod to make a new press fir spindle.

                        #521300
                        JasonB
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                          They are not hard to make from silver steel with a simple single point tool.

                          #521302
                          Clive Brown 1
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                            Not quite answering the question, but lubricator ratchet wheels are very easy to make from silver steel and some simple tooling. A suitably ground HSS toolbit in the lathe will readily cut the teeth by traversing the saddle.

                            Division can be by means of a change wheel and detent mounted at the LH end of the mandrel, or possibly using the bull wheel on some lathes.

                            After parting off, the wheel is hardened & tempered back slightly.

                            Edit, can't type fast enough!

                            Edited By Clive Brown 1 on 20/01/2021 14:45:41

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                            duncan webster 1
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                              One way clutches are cheap enough, but you won't get one that small

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