DHSS access to your bank account

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[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

He may find this of interest: **LINK**

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fraud-investigations-staff-guide

MichaelG.

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

So has he been a naughty boy ?

H

Posted by br on 22/05/2021 11:37:31:

My neighbour is not happy

DHSS have accessed his bank account without his permission

When he complained, he was told they can legally do this if fraud is suspected

bill

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[Dave HalfordParticipant @davehalford22513]

Posted by br on 22/05/2021 15:18:57:

No, Harry They found he was squeaky clean

Just someone passing incorrect DHSS which prompted the investigation

He was more shocked than anything else aver what happened as he believed bank accounts and your details were confidential. Not to the Goverment departments it seems.

bill

Nor the Police otherwise drug dealers would be very happy.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

If you take money from any government department then you basically give up the right to privacy

[Chris CrewParticipant @chriscrew66644]

The DHSS no longer exists it was replaced by the Department of Social Security in 1988 which was superseded by the Department of Work and Pensions, i.e. DWP in 2001. Do keep up!

[Phil H1Participant @philh196021]

If they have wanted, the powers that be have had access since about 2000 and maybe much earlier.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Was this some sort of scam?

The Department of Health and Social Security hasn't existed since 1988, and it's successor (the Department of Social Security) became the Department of Work and Pensions twenty years ago.

It's true the DWP and HRMC have powers to access bank accounts but they wouldn't call themselves the DHSS. A con man fishing for bank account information might!

Dave

[Bob WorsleyParticipant @bobworsley31976]

If you read the paypal and ebay T&C then if you sign up you give them permission to deduct any amount and any time from your credit or debit card.

THAT is criminal!

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[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Chris Crew on 22/05/2021 17:36:32:

The DHSS no longer exists it was replaced by the Department of Social Security in 1988 which was superseded by the Department of Work and Pensions, i.e. DWP in 2001. Do keep up!

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Department for Work and Pensions

MichaelG.

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Arrogant pedantry only really works if you know your facts, Chris

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 22/05/2021 18:27:24

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[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Behave children!

It was commonly thought, at the time, that people who got upset about the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act were paranoid…

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

That's nothing, Customs and Excise have the right to enter your home and carry out a search without a warrant.

regards Martin

Thats got you all worried just before bed time.

:O)

Edited By Martin Kyte on 22/05/2021 22:36:53

[Anonymous]

Welcome to the modern world. Imagine what it will be like in 50 years.

Orwell was just a few tears off.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Posted by Martin Kyte on 22/05/2021 22:36:06:

That's nothing, Customs and Excise have the right to enter your home and carry out a search without a warrant.

regards Martin

Thats got you all worried just before bed time.

:O)

Edited By Martin Kyte on 22/05/2021 22:36:53

Hi Martin, this document says otherwise Chapter 3 Powers 3.4

Regards Nick.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Thank you, Nick

MichaellG.

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Did these draconian powers come into being because of our membership of the EU where all member states were required to have parallel systems in place ? Dave W

[Keith HaleParticipant @keithhale68713]

Challenge the authority of HMRC at the airport when they politely ask to search your suitcase. Refuse and send your taxi away.

Tell the VAT inspector to come back later if he wants to see your bank account.

Good luck with those 😂

I have absolutely no legal qualifications whatsoever just a gut feeling as to the realities of life. I am reminded of all the posturing and legal advice relating to the supply of cadmium bearing silver solder. I opened a war chest for all the financial contributions to fight Brussels. It remains empty.

Over to the amateur lawyers.

Do keep us posted on the developments.

[DiogenesIIParticipant @diogenesii]

Posted by Samsaranda on 23/05/2021 08:38:58:

Did these draconian powers come into being because of our membership of the EU where all member states were required to have parallel systems in place ? Dave W

No. ..they came into being with the need to investigate fraud, deception, and evasion of dues centuries ago – er, I believe the first 'Customs / Assize' powers enshrined as law have a mediaeval origin.

I'm somewhat surprised that educated men are so outraged that a public body charged with accounting for taxpayers money should have the necessary powers to investigate abuses..

In 2019-20, I believe benefits fraud administered by DWP amounted to around £2 billion..

I wouldn't mind seeing a small part of that spent on something socially beneficial near me..

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by DiogenesII on 23/05/2021 09:35:09:

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In 2019-20, I believe benefits fraud administered by DWP amounted to around £2 billion..

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Curiously enough … DWP’s reporting typically groups ‘Fraud’ and ‘Error’ together:

**LINK**

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/888423/fraud-and-error-stats-release-2019-2020-estimates-revised-29-may-2020.pdf

MichaelG.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Lots of resources devoted to catching the serfs while the government guys enjoy the dripping roast

The expenses scandal for instance

"Oh dear you've caught me. I'll just pay it back then"

If you worked at Macdonalds and took a slice of cheese you would be dismissed with no recompense and forfeit your pension

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